Can we all agree Bethesda did power armor right?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Eddard, Nov 22, 2015.

New Power Armor System- Yay or Nay

  1. Better than old PA

    17 vote(s)
    15.6%
  2. Worse than old PA

    19 vote(s)
    17.4%
  3. Better, but you get it too early

    59 vote(s)
    54.1%
  4. No difference

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Other

    14 vote(s)
    12.8%
  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    That it could last for a very long time, possibily 100 years. No clue. But definetely more than in Fallout 4.
     
  2. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Oct 27, 2003
    Self-contained suit of advanced technology armor. Powered by a micro fusion reactor with enough fuel to last a hundred years.

    So at full charge these puppies last 100 years, give or take.
     
  3. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    "I'm not interested in discussing realistic fusion cores in a post-apoc universe with talking zombies" - Pete Hines probably.
     
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  4. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Oct 27, 2003
    We need moar lewtz/WoW/scavenge simulation was the most likely culprit.

    The more busy work/loot simulation one can throw into a game, the more one can advertise 'increased gameplay hours'.
     
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  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Also unlimited amounts of quests. You can literaly play for ever!
     
  6. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Those additions would be a great thing if there was still a singleplayer RPG in the game. Instead they took that part out so it's just an empty MMORPG with terrible linear dialogue wheel
     
  7. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Oct 27, 2003
    See, the thing is, game development has finite resources. When focus is placed on SHINYS, MMO bullshit, lewtz, etc, other things of substance get put on hold.
     
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  8. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    There is a disease among AAA developers. It makes them believe people who play singleplayer RPGs want to play an MMORPG in singleplayer form. Whoever started this trend ruined video games for me. On the plus side of that, I'm a lot more productive now.
     
  9. Riven326

    Riven326 First time out of the vault

    74
    Dec 2, 2015
    It seems like a more recent development among RPG's. And the thing is, it gets criticized every time by customers and even by mainstream reviewers. It's clearly not wanted and yet they continue.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    It's just fancy right now. Just as how MMORPGS have been extremly popular and fancy things to release after World of Warcraft. When ever a company, like EA, Blizzard or if you want Bethesda is releasing extremly succesfull titles - succesfull in terms of sales. Someone, maybe in a nice fancy suit doing the finances, steps in with the idea, we need that money too! Pumping out some kind of title every year, like DLCs, Addons, Sequels or what ever. THing is, this concept doesn't work for every game. The graveyeard of killed franchises and game-development studios is quite large. I mean you can't just turn Commandos in a shooter like CoD. And making everything open world is not an inherent guarantee for success. Yet, some people see nothing but Dollar signs where they want that sweet CoD money. But they forget, only CoD, makes CoD money.
     
  11. the_cpl

    the_cpl Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    450
    Aug 9, 2009
    I liked the old one better. But I'm playing by wearing green Combat Armour anyways, so I don't care that much. :smile:
     
  12. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Well I can't stand how pieces of armor just fall off. Of course since you can repair it with cans it makes sense why it falls of like junk. :lol:
     
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  13. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Mildly Dipped

    598
    Oct 28, 2009
    yeah especially they've named the power supply "Fusion core" wich implies it operates on principal of Fusion
    like on the sun where two deuterium atoms collide to form hellium atom and excess energy. it's not a regular lithium batery where stored power would degrade over time it's an atomic device, and not to mention deuterium is a stable isotope of hydrogen so no way of degrade over time here... it has no half- life cycle because it is not radioactive only way it could be damaged over time is that the gas would leak out and pressure would be gone but that way it would be a piece of crap and could not work as a battery any longer.
    Lore friendly approach would be perma fusion cores but ultra/extremely rare
    or or make it so only t45 PA uses fusion desposable cores and the rest uses the millenium batery or how much was it sepose to last..
    If i'm not mistaken according to the lore, only early PA's had a replacable short term battery. The t51 and advanced power armor had the heavy duty power cell that lasted a couple centuries.
    or was the early PA's disposable baterries Fo3 lore?
     
  14. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

    627
    Jun 25, 2014
    No. Fallout 4 might have improved the effectiveness of PA, but really, treating it as a goddamn vehicle which runs out of fuel for about 15 hours in-game was stupid. Fallout 1/2 had the best iterations of Power Armor because not only did it actually behaved as Power Armor, it was rare, which Power Armor should be.
     
  15. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    I agree with this 100%! I don't understand how 4 has the best version of armor. I prefer the Fallout 1 & 2 versions since you couldn't get it in the first quest by stumbling into the next shithole town to get it.
     
  16. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign No Original Thought Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
  17. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Well, they only had several years of development time and no actual time pressure due to the late announcement date, so obviously there's going to be a lot left on the cutting room floor.
     
  18. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Is it me or does that look like a robot?
     
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  19. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign No Original Thought Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Sure, and it looked like shit. :grin:
     
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  20. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    That's Bethesda's beautiful design philosophy: Few, little, and shite. Let them eat mods...