Well, 4 still sucks no matter how you look at it. 3 created the precedent (though 3 is not god-awful like 4) so I still can't say 4 is better than 3. Oh, I see Phipps is still raving on about Bethesda's raiders and how 'deep' they are again despite how ridiculous and generic they actually are? Some things never change. I suspect any argument in favor of Bethesda's raiders will be twisted to favor Phipps' position at this point no matter how contradictory it is before denying said contradiction. Meanwhile, I wonder how cheap the DS3 bundle will be during the next Steam sales?