Canada’s top court rules non-penetrative sex with animals is legal

Who cares about the dog here, dogs lick each others asses for fun, come to think of it, they probably lick and fuck any kind of ass, bush or junk. The terrible part is that he (the accused man) did this to his stepdaughter.
 
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Seriously, would you do crack and heroin if they weren't illegal?
Just stop arguing with me about this. The government warns people of jail sentences, overdoses and even death if you do drugs like that, so people dont.
I am sure the government could come up with some spin about banging animals, and threaten jail sentences and it would put some people off.
I have better things to do than argue with people like you about the nature of deterrents. Stop trying to derail this.
 
Who cares about the dog here, dogs lick each others asses for fun, come to think of it, they probably lick and fuck any kind of ass, bush or junk. The terrible part is that he (the accused man) did this to his stepdaughter.
I Care about the dog. Honestly I view this situation as fucked up for every sentient creature involved.
 
I Care about the dog. Honestly I view this situation as fucked up for every sentient creature involved.

The article did not mention the dog being harmed in any way (at least i did not see it), so unless he was physically hurt, i don't see the problem. Clearly you would not be able to force a dog to lick something if he would not wish it. It is somewhat strange that the dog part is overshadowing the man abusing his underaged stepdaughter part.
 
"If you kill a cow to eat it’s meat then you are having that cow imprisoned for life and murdered for your own benefit. We are all aware of the deplorable conditions in factory farms, thanks to our vegan friends who never shut up about it. If you rape a cow, you’re basically just sticking your dick into it. Might this traumatize the cow? I don’t know. I’ve never fucked a cow or had the inclination to.

However, I cannot look down on one who would fuck a cow. I might question their tastes, but I have no moral pedestal from which to judge them, because I routinely eat meat.

I know that because I eat meat, mammals who are not altogether that different from myself from a broader perspective, are kept in misery and killed callously. So how can I possibly judge someone who uses this same creature–who my every action says is worthless for anything but misery, meaninglessness and slaughter–for sexual pleasure.

I would think that any reasonable being, if given the woeful choice between life imprisonment followed by execution or being raped by a creature with a penis significantly smaller than the bull penis that evolution has created you to withstand easily… . Almost anyone given that choice is going to choose the latter. The reasons why should be obvious.

If you are a vegan, then you can be against bestiality as well. But if you eat meat, I don’t see how the position is intellectual tenable. Your only argument against it is your own personal disgust, which holds no weight.
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- The Amazing Analist
http://amazingatheist.tumblr.com/post/109026159556/no-matter-how-you-slice-it-beastiality-is-still

I feel conflicted about this issue. On one hand I don't think it's that big of a deal but on the other hand I feel like we should be better than this as we've been granted a level of intelligence from our evolution to know what is right and what is wrong which is very different from mere animals. So, yeah... I'm not on the fence, I hopped off the fence and went home.

I don't care at the end of the day. Someone else can fight over this issue about what is morally righteous. I don't give a shit. Whenever it is brought up and I'm hooked back up on that fence I still can't pick a side and the moment I untangle that hook I just leave.
I just think what TJ has to say about it is interesting and provides a different kind of perspective.
 
Just stop arguing with me about this. The government warns people of jail sentences, overdoses and even death if you do drugs like that, so people dont.
I am sure the government could come up with some spin about banging animals, and threaten jail sentences and it would put some people off.
I have better things to do than argue with people like you about the nature of deterrents. Stop trying to derail this.
Or maybe people don't do it because they aren't complete and utter morons?
And that's ignoring all the people who do it.

And if this deterrent works, why is the number of people who use weed growing everywhere regardless of its legal status?
 
Or maybe people don't do it because they aren't complete and utter morons?
And that's ignoring all the people who do it.
Its a fact many people don't do it because of the government making it illegal and and warning people of the risks.
When will you shut up and understand I cant be bothered to debate you anymore.
 
"If you kill a cow to eat it’s meat then you are having that cow imprisoned for life and murdered for your own benefit. We are all aware of the deplorable conditions in factory farms, thanks to our vegan friends who never shut up about it. If you rape a cow, you’re basically just sticking your dick into it. Might this traumatize the cow? I don’t know. I’ve never fucked a cow or had the inclination to.

However, I cannot look down on one who would fuck a cow. I might question their tastes, but I have no moral pedestal from which to judge them, because I routinely eat meat.

I know that because I eat meat, mammals who are not altogether that different from myself from a broader perspective, are kept in misery and killed callously. So how can I possibly judge someone who uses this same creature–who my every action says is worthless for anything but misery, meaninglessness and slaughter–for sexual pleasure.

I would think that any reasonable being, if given the woeful choice between life imprisonment followed by execution or being raped by a creature with a penis significantly smaller than the bull penis that evolution has created you to withstand easily… . Almost anyone given that choice is going to choose the latter. The reasons why should be obvious.

If you are a vegan, then you can be against bestiality as well. But if you eat meat, I don’t see how the position is intellectual tenable. Your only argument against it is your own personal disgust, which holds no weight.
"

I think this part sums it up pretty well. While it does not mean that one who eats meat should not have any empathy in any kind of case, but clearly we have bigger issues to solve first. If as many people would be outraged by factory farming as they are about cecil the lion, maybe we could actually speed up things like funding the research for cultured meat.
 
Based on....?
Comparing cannabis use and bestiality is pretty stupid in the first place. People use weed for a whole bunch of reasons, among them is modern science telling us weed isn't that bad and, punishments for its use being relatively minor.
Another reason is that there aren't many moral objections to weed, while bestiality is universally looked down upon (well, it's looked down upon everywhere except Canada apparently).
 
Based on....?
Its pretty much common knowledge that many people don't do drugs because of all the spin the government has around it, y'know, it will kill you, it will ruin your life etcetera.
Comparing cannabis use and bestiality is pretty stupid in the first place. People use weed for a whole bunch of reasons, among them is modern science telling us weed isn't that bad and, punishments for its use being relatively minor.
Another reason is that there aren't many moral objections to weed, while bestiality is universally looked down upon (well, it's looked down upon everywhere except Canada apparently).
I was just saying that the government can put some people off smoking pot with all the spin they release about it, so why could they not do it with other things?
Final post on this thread now, so if any people try to continue an argument about deterrents and drugs, i will just link this video.
 
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Its pretty much common knowledge that many people don't do drugs because of all the spin the government has around it, y'know, it will kill you, it will ruin your life etcetera.
I think the fact that these ideas are instilled through parenting is what makes the difference, not the odd "don't do drugs" ad sponsored by the government.

I was just saying that the government can put some people off smoking pot with all the spin they release about it, so why could they not do it with other things?
Final post on this thread now, so if any people try to continue an argument about deterrents and drugs, i will just link this video.

But again, the number of pot smokers is growing everywhere regardless of legality.

And what is it with you and insisting that we stick to the topic, how long are we supposed to talk about Canada being Canada? Do your conversations in real life also sound like this?

Comparing cannabis use and bestiality is pretty stupid in the first place. People use weed for a whole bunch of reasons, among them is modern science telling us weed isn't that bad and, punishments for its use being relatively minor.
Another reason is that there aren't many moral objections to weed, while bestiality is universally looked down upon (well, it's looked down upon everywhere except Canada apparently).
> Comparing one illegal activity to another when discussing the efficiency of laws as deterrents is stupid

O.K.
 
I think the fact that these ideas are instilled through parenting is what makes the difference, not the odd "don't do drugs" ad sponsored by the government.
But again, the number of potsmokers is growing everywhere regardless of legality.

And what is it with you and insisting that we stick to the topic, how long are we supposed to talk about Canada being Canada? Do your conversations in real life also sound like this?
 
Well, on the bright side, considering Canada has the most female rape out of any other country, this could be a good thing. Most of these sick fucks who rape women are mentally deluded anyway. If letting them fuck a horse or something stops them from fucking human beings, then what the Hell? Go for it. At the very least with an animal, the animal can very easily bite the rapist's genitals off/kick them off/shit all over him with no repercussions because it's an animal. No sane person's going to be doing this anyway. It'll help people see who the nutsos really are.
 
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