Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Korin, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    thats actually one of the great moments though, because its easy to like both the Blades and the Dragon. And they have their own reasons to kill them. - Even if it makes no sense in this case, but well could have been writen a bit better I think.

    One of the few situations where I really think Skyrim did something better then just mediocre. If just the whole game had that quality.
     
  2. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    It was a great moment. He's probably the only NPC in the game that has genuinly good writing. I liked his point about morality; he's basically been sitting there for millenia controlling his natural urge to kill. Meanwhile, the Dragonborn has been a rampaging ball of gratuitous ultraviolence all game long. In this light, it's very difficult and hypocritical to judge him, and I piss on the Blades. Want me to kill the only guy who helped me, no strongs attached, to satisfy your egos, after all I've done for you people? No way in hell.

    As for the Dragons, they should have used a more varid Shout repertoir. The game makes a big deal of how these aren't your garden variety dragons, they're intelligent and immortal and use reality-bending magic and all, but they still behave like the usual fire or ice-breathing giant lizards, while the Dragonborn has access to something like 40 Shouts if you count the DLCs. It would have been nice if they pushed you back, summoned aid, increased their attack speed to fuck up your patterns, basically do more than fly around spewing fire at you.
     
  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    you konw I always thought it would have been awesome if the Dragonborn actually had the ability to be a dragon. But at an cost. Town guards would attack you and all that.
     
  4. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    Does anyone else also hate Serana? Or the entirety of anything vampire related in that dlc? I play it only for the goodies and the content really.

    But turning into a dragon would make the player even more OP. And they'd need a reason to explain why you can't fly into cities or over borders and such.
     
  5. Jebus

    Jebus Background Radiant
    Orderite

    Jan 29, 2004
    I actually found that moment pretty strange: the entire reason for the Blades to exist is to serve the Dragonborn (i.e. you), yet still they presume to tell you what to do. I was like, "fuck you bitch, who do you think you are" and let Parthunaax live.

    I found the Dawnguard DLC relatively amusing, but I was getting tired of Serena raising bunnies from the dead to help you defeat Legendary dragons. They didn't help much.
     
  6. CthuluIsSpy

    CthuluIsSpy A Smooth-Skin

    Dec 20, 2011
    Nope, I actually liked Serana. Granted, she's a bit heavy handed with the necromancy, but that's ok.

    I agree that the Vampires were a bit lacking.

    Seriously, vampire lord form sucks.
     
  7. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    Blood moon? :lol:
     
  8. CthuluIsSpy

    CthuluIsSpy A Smooth-Skin

    Dec 20, 2011
    Is anyway else really annoyed at how they pigeon holed the factions in dawnguard?

    Like, Dawnguard = warriors
    Vampires = Mage/Thief

    What if I want to be a Vampire warrior? You know, a great-sword wielding, daedric armor carrying monstrosity? Well, I can't because Vampires must be magickal and sneaky :roll:

    Ok, to be fair, I can. In fact I made a character just like that. And I got absolutely nothing from joining the vamps. What I did get was light armor...which is useless on my character.

    Yeah, great RPG alright.
     
  9. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    It gets particularly stupid when you realize the game gives you no real option to spare him. You can only ignore the quest.

    Legendary game designers!
     
  10. Makta

    Makta The DICKtator

    Jul 29, 2010
    Haven't tried Oblivion for years but from what i remember i did prefer the dark brotherhood questline and the arena.. Keep in mind i didn't get that far in the game due to playing at a friends house when he would let me :P

    This is far better critique!

    Ahh yes they really do look EXACT the same! The previous cave had rocks in it and this one has rocks too! EXACTLY the same!

    I'm not saying it's a huge difference but most of the dungeons only have 1 thing in common and that is the door that happens to lead to the exit as you are done.

    You forgot that you are the first? to get contacted by those mage guys in ages? Or that you are actually the dragonborn just to name a few things.

    Some of the companion are cured = They should change what/how?
    The Blades where really bad imo.
    You need to use at least 1 spell! :P
    The thief guild is probably the worst.. I only join them so i can sell stole goods.
    Whiterun is a trading hub seeing how it has a perfect location. And also you should not forget the bandits around the town and in the cabbin to the south.

    Because everyone i the world knows everything good/bad someone does?


    Edit: Think i messed up someone name in one of the quotes but to lazy too look it up :?
     
  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I always hated everything vampire related in Bethesda games since morrowind. Mainly for the fact that they had anoying writing and that they feelt very out of place - in my opinion.

    Cant talk for the Skyrim DLC though.
     
  12. Joelzania

    Joelzania Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Oct 12, 2011
    Dawnguard felt shovelled in as if people were annoyed that vampires weren't in the game so Bethesda decided to give in.

    Dragonborn, on the other hand, felt right as a Bethesda DLC. That is in giving us a new region to explore, (even if we already did in another game!)
     
  13. The Sixth Ranger

    The Sixth Ranger It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Mar 10, 2013
    Is Dragonborn really any good? I haven't had a chance to download it, is it recommendable?
     
  14. Makta

    Makta The DICKtator

    Jul 29, 2010
    Wrong on 1 part. There has been vampires in the game since start :P But i do agree that it's not "complete".. Feels like a lot of things are missing.

    Smells like a pirate :evil: !
     
  15. CthuluIsSpy

    CthuluIsSpy A Smooth-Skin

    Dec 20, 2011
    Yes, because as we all know, steam delivers disks to your home upon purchase :P
     
  16. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    It's downloadable content. It has to be downloaded one way or the other.
    In this day and age, I guess it's obsolete to assume piracy everytime downloading is mentioned.
     
  17. Renegadexss

    Renegadexss It Wandered In From the Wastes

    May 26, 2011
    Dragonborn is fun don't expect a ton of new stuff and it does have a few winks at Morrowind on the island.

    Dawnguard was terrible the only things I liked were crossbows and new crafting items.
     
  18. BonusWaffle

    BonusWaffle Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 6, 2013
    The blades (mostly delphine) annoyed the hell out of me throughout that entire game. Using theft to force you to meet with them then not trusting you at all, while at the same time expecting you to trust them with your life for no reason whatsoever, inviting themselves to the greybeards council and then speaking FOR you and taking credit for the work you have done and for you becoming dragonborn in the first place, then ordering you to kill paarthurnax simply because he is a dragon and fuck you. And of course, no matter how many times you stab her she refuses to die.

    Blades aside, I decided killing paarthurnax was the thing to do, not for the blades, but because it seems to me that paarthurnax is simply using you to kill alduin. With his only rival out of the way Paarthurnax can lead the dragons and rule the world. Also his name means something like ambition tyranny cruelty in dragon language if i remember right.
     
  19. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    Why didn't Paarthurnax take over the world earlier? Before Alduin returned? For example, during the war with the Thalmor, when all the factions were weaker?

    The argument about the name is just silly. My name is Michael, Who is like God?. Despite the obvious religious nature of the rhetorical question, I'm completely irreligious. Names don't determine anything. Paarthurnax could've meant Mr Big Poopy Pants, and it wouldn't make Paarthurnax Mr Big Poopy Pants.
     
  20. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    Also, Parthurnaax trying to rule the world when there's the bloke who killed the much more powerful Alduin still running around seems a bit like a bad plan to me, for some reason. The guy had a hundred opportunities to go mass murdering, he didn't.

    The PC, on the other hand, is almost always a wrecking ball of pure, senseless murder. There's really not much place for moral judgement in a game like Skyrim, coming from the protagonist anyway.