Fallout 2 Restoration Project Gameplay Thread

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by killap, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    Interesting. Does this mean no elevators work in the game for you?

    Sadly, yes. If you cannot access the elevators, then you cannot go anywhere in the facility.

    Not in the 2.x series. The Warehouse with the Doctor was removed, as it was only proposed by the devs in an early design doc, and never meant to be in the final EPA.
     
  2. Rodneyh37

    Rodneyh37 First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Nope, actually for example the Vault city vault elevators work, i only noticed EPA and the mine in Redding elevators not working.

    Thanks, but is there no way to make the elevators? i mean it works for most people, why doesn't it work for me?
     
  3. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    I really don't know what could be the problem. If all elevators stopped working for you, then I would suspect it might have something to do with sfall. Then again, I don't know why 99.9% of the RP players are not affected.

    Do you have a save game I can test out? I'm sure the elevators will work just fine for me, but no harm in testing.
     
  4. Rodneyh37

    Rodneyh37 First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    I just updated my sfall version before entering EPA for the first time, so i guess it can't be that.

    Here is my save slot:

    http://www.multiupload.com/6TJVQTRW8Z

    [The save is just before the Utility level in the facility where the two elevators don't work]

    I wish there was a way to fix it, or maybe have a different way to access the rest of the levels in the facility... [like the stairs in the Redding mine], i read you used to have "talk window" with the elevators... maybe bringing it back would fix the problem?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  5. HarpsS1ngh

    HarpsS1ngh First time out of the vault

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    May 4, 2006
    I have exactly the same problem on the same floor (Robot maintenance Level 3), I have v2.0 of the restoration mod and using sfall 2.6 with fresh fallout 2 installation.

    When I open one of the elevators and step in, I don't get the pop up to choose the level to go to

    I've tried disabling any running processes that could interfere within windows 7, as far as I know its something to do with the game. Any ideas?
     
  6. Agros

    Agros First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    I thought I had previously posted this but I can't find it anywhere so I guess I'll do it again...

    During the installation process I noticed that there is an option that allows you to see the armor you give your followers...doesn't work for me...I even give my follower armor and tell the to wear best armor and nothing...am I doing something wrong? Thanks for your time.

    *Hope I'm not double posting*
     
  7. Agros

    Agros First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Just to make things clear, by me saying "that allows you to see the armor" I mean see the armor on the character during the game instead of them without the armor/normal design.
     
  8. Timeslip

    Timeslip Water Chip? Been There, Done That
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    Aug 15, 2007
    And at a guess, you overwrote the ddraw.ini, thus neatly removing all of the RP's modified elevator settings?
     
  9. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    Wait, did you make the relevant changes to the ddraw.ini file? If not, then that is the problem. You need to make sure ElevatorsFile=Elevators.ini is uncommented (i.e remove the ';' at the start of the line)

    Honestly, there is no reason to update sfall separately. If there is ever an important change, I'll release an update to the RP.


    EDIT:
    And Timeslip beats me to it. :)

    @HarpsS1ngh
    What I just said is probably relevant to you.

    @Agros
    What steps did you take to install everything? You posted in the unofficial patch thread, so I almost feel like you installed the RP and then the unofficial patch. I really cannot think of any other reason for this happening...
     
  10. Timeslip

    Timeslip Water Chip? Been There, Done That
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    Aug 15, 2007
    But at least you're more polite about it than me. :P

    The people-blindly-updating-sfall thing really is a lot worse now that it doesn't cause the obvious cities crash on startup. I'll try and get that 2.9 I was talking about out for you tomorrow.
     
  11. Rodneyh37

    Rodneyh37 First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Yeah, it's without ';' and still has the problem.

    Also when i was in Redding with this problem i didn't install sfall separately, i just had the one with RP.

    Strange since the elevators in the vault of Vault City do work, what is the different between the two?

    As i said, maybe have a different way to access the rest of the levels in the facility... [like the stairs in the Redding mine], or better i read you used to have "talk window" with the elevators... maybe bringing it back would fix the problem?
     
  12. Agros

    Agros First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    I think I might have done it in that order...will I have to make a fresh install of the game again but do the patch then the RP? I didn't think it mattered what order you installed in but I guess that's what I get for thinking. >_<"

    When I installed the RP I chose the "full Install" option.
     
  13. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    You don't want to install the unofficial patch, as it already comes with the RP. All that is required is a humongous install of the game and then the latest RP, that's it, nothing more.

    Okay, but you'll probably still have to manually select stuff from the extras section.

    Yeah, you proabably should. Installing both the patch and RP causes problems. Honestly, installing the unofficial patch after the RP should not happen as there is a check in the patch installer, but apparently this doesn't work for many people...


    @Rodneyh37
    Hmm, and there is an Elevators.ini file in your main F2 directory that has two entries (24, 25)?

    Heh, I know politeness is such a fault of mine.. ;)

    Cool!
     
  14. Rodneyh37

    Rodneyh37 First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Yes:

    Is something wrong with it?
     
  15. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    Nope, looks good to me. Hmm, I'm really at a loss here... *shrug*

    EDIT: Any chance you can install the 2.0.2e patch from the first post in the main RP thread and see what happens? You probably have it installed already, but at least you will get the version of sfall that was shipped with the RP.
     
  16. Rodneyh37

    Rodneyh37 First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Too bad :(

    What about the "talk window" for the elevators idea? you said you removed it or something from a past verison?
     
  17. Agros

    Agros First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Alright, thanks for your time and patience.
     
  18. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    See the addition to my post above.

    That was originally in place due to limitations in adding new elevators, but thanks to sfall I was able to do what I wanted. Having both won't work as they are mutually exclusive.
     
  19. HarpsS1ngh

    HarpsS1ngh First time out of the vault

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    May 4, 2006
    Cheers killap, that did it for me. While we're on the subject, are there any other modifications needed to be made to ddraw.ini after updating the sfall patch or any other file?

    I got a new problem now, I get a CTD when I enter the first floor on the left elevator, it says "Application Error: The instruction at 0048d9a4 referenced memory at 0acfba77. The memory could not be read from"....I've had similar errors before but usually after reloading the game it usually works, but this time I get the same error each time.


    Also, the design docs that you refer to, do you mean the fallout bible?
     
  20. Rodneyh37

    Rodneyh37 First time out of the vault

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    May 21, 2010
    Well, i did and Fallout didn't even open. [after the "please wait" window it crushes]

    So I'm forced to re-install the latest verison of sfall, It's now working again.