Fallout 3 at GC: Gry Online

Pope Viper said:
BTW - Regarding race, I'm going to guess that you're stuck with a Caucasian father, regardless of the race you choose?
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Your father will look depending on what you look like. So if you're black, he's black. It would be wrong you being black and your father is white, mum must have messed with the milkman then.
 
That's good, I wasn't sure if BS would even consider that.

Too bad they're not going to take the PC's facial features into account,and modify daddy.

Maybe' they'll surprise us.
 
I really really wonder what happens when you change your skin tone after you leave the vault. You grew up with your father being white and right before you leave the vault you change your skin color to black and at the end of the game when you find your father, he is now black.

What a mind fuck that would be.
 
EnglishMuffin said:
I really really wonder what happens when you change your skin tone after you leave the vault. You grew up with your father being white and right before you leave the vault you change your skin color to black and at the end of the game when you find your father, he is now black.

What a mind fuck that would be.
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Wasn't there some gag about that in South Park, undergoing surgery to become a black man?
 
Dictionary definitions don't work like that. There is no definite dictionary, so you have to check more than one if you can and see what they have in common.
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That is what I am saying, I've looked at several dictionaries and they all have the inferior/superior race(s) definition in common, or at least explain racism as including a dislike of certain races. I've never seen racism explained as anything other than involving negative views towards certain race(s).
 
EnglishMuffin said:
So if I go to europe they call all the black people there africans or african americans? If I go to canada they call all the blacks there africans or african americans?
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Ok first of all the game takes place in the ruins of America in vaults built by the american government not in Canada or Europe. Thus the citizens being american would fill out the american style birth forms from before the war.

I didn't say I agree with the stupidity of the term "African American", I merely said that, it is an accurate reflection of government forms in america today and the last 20 years or so.

Nice try completely avoiding the point of my post though...
 
Pope Viper said:
That's good, I wasn't sure if BS would even consider that.

Too bad they're not going to take the PC's facial features into account,and modify daddy.

Maybe' they'll surprise us.
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I'm not sure, all I know is that your father's face will depend on your face. Probably using the numbers which make up your face, tweak them a little, and age his face.
 
Pope Viper said:
That's good, I wasn't sure if BS would even consider that.

Too bad they're not going to take the PC's facial features into account,and modify daddy.

Maybe' they'll surprise us.
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You sure? I coulda sworn I read something in the unholy Beth forums a long time ago, where one of the devs came in and mentioned something about your dads face being modded.
Was almost a year ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy on the details.
 
Westbend said:
You sure? I coulda sworn I read something in the unholy Beth forums a long time ago, where one of the devs came in and mentioned something about your dads face being modded.
Was almost a year ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy on the details.
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You're correct. Your father's appearance (facial features included) will be dependant on how you design your character.
 
Personally I've found this part particularly funny(someone correct me if I'm twisting something):
GOL: Pete, aren't you already tired of Fallout 3?
Pete:Tired, no. Only... at this stage I can compare Fallout 3 to 8th month of pregnancy. You're happy but the child is starting to become a burden. After such a long time I wish Fallout had already come out.

Anyway, what I think is most important in this preview is this part:
However, all dialogue options, even the ones mean to Silver, seemed to lead to only one solution - helping her in her issues with Moriarty, the saloon owner.
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If they really wanted to make it realistic, they wouldn't put any black people in the vaults. Although I could see the government experimenting in racial tension, etc. with a few of the vaults. Jesus, feels like Gravity's Rainbow, just call me Pirate. But seriously think about it; in the fifties black people were killed for whistling at a white women. They couldn't even use the same water fountains as white people. No way in fuck are a bunch of already freaked out white people going to let some scary "darkies" into their nice, cozy vault. Just sayin'
 
Texas Renegade said:
I didn't say I agree with the stupidity of the term "African American", I merely said that, it is an accurate reflection of government forms in america today and the last 20 years or so.
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but nobody said "african american" in the 50s and the term has never been on any government forms
 
Goral said:
Anyway, what I think is most important in this preview is this part:
However, all dialogue options, even the ones mean to Silver, seemed to lead to only one solution - helping her in her issues with Moriarty, the saloon owner.
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The way BS is lazy i guess we have a game that's a mix of Oblivion and Mass Effect concerning dialogue. I'll so test these dialogues if i ever got this game, but my bet is that most dialogues will lead to the same outcome unless you ignore the quest giver, there might be a option to tell her to shove it and ignore her plight.

Maybe the reviewer got it wrong, maybe the quest will change once you interact with moriarty (my char name will be Sherlock Holmes btw).
 
oihrebwe said:
Ixyroth said:
Why are there even 'races' at all?
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because they reused code from oblivion and just replaced imperial/khajiit/redguard/etc with white/black/asian
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Also the sliders they used in Oblivion were just wank when it came to creating someone who wasn't using the default skin of that race. Trying to create a dark skinned Imperial just ended up with a pitch black character with red bits or a muddy brown/green.

Would like the point out that the pre war setting of Fallout wasn't the 1950s but rather a science fiction enviroment based on 1950s sci fi so the zeitgeist of the 1950s is not really part of the Fallout setting.
 
Texas Renegade said:
I didn't say I agree with the stupidity of the term "African American", I merely said that, it is an accurate reflection of government forms in america today and the last 20 years or so.
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While I understand that the sensitivities regarding race might make "African American" on forms make sense (Gstaff pointed out to me that it says African American on US forms, too), you have to consider two things: one is that what makes sense for current US forms does not necessarily make sense in any fantasy setting, and two is that this game is not US-only, and will be released in English in quite a few countries.
 
I can grant you that brother none. I can also grant you that it wasn't necessary to use the term.

But I can also defend its use, being that the game takes place in america there is no great wrong in using the regionalized terminology of the region the game takes place in.

as for the silver job, I also will be interested in how to solve the quest. I may just take her money to give moriarty and then either lie to moriarty about her paying, or shoot silver. That would definitely be a way to not help her.

Hopefully, there is something in game that handles it much better.

Would love to lie to Moriarty, get silver in trouble, and then he dispaches his goons to kill her or something.
 
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