Fallout 3 mentioned by Pete Hines

Roshambo you're giving Pete Hines way too much credit here, the guy wrote a paragraph of BS, and no I'm not going to read this whole thread or go back to gamespy(shack ftw), I just wanted to give my quick and cheap 2 cents on a brief quote, but was subject to your anal wisdom
 
Mondo said:
Roshambo you're giving Pete Hines way too much credit here, the guy wrote a paragraph of BS,
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Did you miss the audio interview as well? Or the rest of the things he has said, to provide a further context of his current claims, or perhaps the words of Todd Howard himself might be some clue? Or how I had to point out again for your benefit that Bethesda ISN'T treating their own IP with respect, so that the TES fans bright enough to recognize and enjoy game construction are more than worried over how TES has been sold out towards the console trash since Todd got his hands on TES/Morrowind?

Thanks for paying attention.

and no I'm not going to read this whole thread or go back to gamespy(shack ftw),
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You now have the option to do one or the other.

Pick one.

I just wanted to give my quick and cheap 2 cents on a brief quote,
but was subject to your anal wisdom
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Well, here's my two cents on anyone who decides to post flamebait without bothering to read the discussion. You were going to start off wearing that avatar for not only the obviousness of you having not read the discussion, but you somehow thought that we were putting words into Pete's mouth that it's going to be Morrowind with guns, when in fact it was an extrapolation based upon what Pete had said, given the treatment of their own IP (including their incessant claims that they are doing what the fans want while butchering it for eye candy) and the cluelessness of the HNIC of the project. The rest of the discussion is quite different in subject than what you posted in a snotty manner.

Do it again and you're banned. Really, if you're just going to post stupid shit without paying attention to the conversation or what people post, that kind of stupidity is your own fault.
 
Dam it took long to read all this :D Anyway i was wondering for witch fans will fallout 3 will be made for us or for oblivion fans.
 
Dam it took long to read all this Very Happy Anyway i was wondering for witch fans will fallout 3 will be made for us or for oblivion fans.
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The ones with the lower IQ point.
You can figure out which fans are those.
 
Egis said:
Dam it took long to read all this :D Anyway i was wondering for witch fans will fallout 3 will be made for us or for oblivion fans.
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Well, since they went with Lowest Common Denominator for both Morrowind and Oblivion, and if they're developing Fallout 3 just like they made/treated Oblivion and other games in their own franchise, I think the answer is fairly obvious. :D
 
Nah, console's didn't kill PC RPGs and console's have been "trendy" since NES days.

MMORPGs killed PC RPGs.

Blame Ultima Online, which game out around the same time as Fallout, for that one.
 
Curse the day when moronic directors of marketing departments became the ones who decide how a game will be designed.
 
Sander said:
Oh really? And where would you have begotten this gem of information?
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Just making educated guesses based on the comments they've made like these

Pete Hines: Our intent is to develop and publish the game for a number of platforms.


Pete Hines: Again, it's early to say, but it wouldn't be a leap of faith to say that we plan to use technologies in development otherwise. You could make some fairly safe leaps of faith that it would be similar in style. We're not going to go away from what it is that we do best.

will Fallout 3 be from a first- or third-person perspective like the Morrowind series, or isometric, like its predecessors?
Pete Hines: Too early to say, but I imagine it'll probably lean towards using technology that we're developing.
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You can make pretty solid assumptions based on these types of quotes. They want to do Fallout the same way they've been doing Morrowind/Oblivion.

Yes, the quotes leave it "open" for interpretation, if you like, but there isn't all that much wiggle room in what they are saying. It seems clear there are no plans for an isometric view, at least.

And with that Pseduo 1st person view that you play Morrowind and Oblivion from, I doubt they will do turn based combat.

Sure, it's "possible"...

...if that makes you feel better.
 
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This is a sad thought, but I think we all try to believe that Fallout will be the way we want it to be (turn based, isometric, true to the spirit of the original games etc), although everything convinces us otherwise.

They're doing what they do 'best', it's going to appear on consoles as someone stated, they're using Oblivion's engine... all this creates a rather horrifying image of the future of Fallout.
The recent interviews didn't leave us many hopes either. They made things even worse the way I see it.

That said I think gameart3d has a point there, there is nothing that would suggest that the game WON'T be RT, apart for the fact that it will become another piece of shit, which Bethesda is obviously unaware of.
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gameart3d said:
You can make pretty solid assumptions based on these types of quotes. They want to do Fallout the same way they've been doing Morrowind/Oblivion.

Yes, the quotes leave it "open" for interpretation, if you like, but there isn't all that much wiggle room in what they are saying. It seems clear there are no plans for an isometric view, at least.

And with that Pseduo 1st person view that you play Morrowind and Oblivion from, I doubt they will do turn based combat.

Sure, it's "possible"...

...if that makes you feel better.
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Yes, it is. I'm also not a fan of making early assumptions, especially when based on comments made by a PR guy. Thinking something is fine, stating it as truth gets on my nerves.
And hey, he said that they'd lean towards the technology they're developing. First person isn't a 'technology', it's just a camera position, as is every other perspective.

I'd still rather wait for anything official or unofficially leaked before making assumptions like this, really.
 
Sander, you also have to figure that it's being made for console. One of their many claims it seems that people simply do not bother to remember. Surprising, since they have claimed to have said nothing so far, they have said more than enough to prove that it IS best if they shut up so their brains might work better on observing important design points. Design points which are both highly in doubt and questionable.

We can also look at the fact that Bethesda has never developed a turn-based or tactical game in any sense of the terms.

"We will do what we do best."

"[Fallout's design] is not what we do best."

Also puts it pretty clear. There's been two failures in the Fallout franchise already, and from the stink of how Bethesda is treating this, it aims to be a third. Then don't forget the HayT mail. That thread should be quite illuminating, as it quotes several parts of Bethesda's PR and developer words, and not just HayT's rather ignorant bullshit.
 
True, Roshambo, the info that we have received has not been very hope-giving. And Bethesda has a far from decent record in making games and treating license. Yet I maintain that, while there has been no positive from their side, pointing out their ignorance and being certain that nothing good will come from this is not going to do any good whatsoever.

It's possibly good to try to educate them with a harsh hand. Or get other people to realise what they've said so far. It's not a road I like to travel, though.
 
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