Fallout 3 mentioned by Pete Hines

Sander said:
I actually prefer a new location with few connections to previous locations. Mainly because this means there are no problems with previously established canon, and possible ways the previous two games were played.

Agree. I don't want to see another 'Vault-dweller or his relatives go find something, uncover evil and save the world' gameplay again. (BG2 anyone?) :?:

EDIT: Sorry about the Planescape Tournment part wooz. :oops:
 
Bah, that's hardly PS:T.

Torment, at least for me, was a very innovative game. It didn't focus on gathering shiny artifacts such as The Mighty Sword of Chaos+83 nor saving the world, but instead focused on the characters' story and the setting. In depth. Unlike, say, BG2.

Its main quest and characters were hardly stereotypical.
 
Roshambo said:
(snip: Look at me.. With my arrogance and stubornness i've chased everyone away from this forum who doesn't share my oppinions. Using silly tools to ridicule people who believe differently.)

You're simply incredibly stupid and arrogant. You believe that because you've written the same bullshit 3760 times it's suddenly transformed into a universial truth. If YOU read the stuff i have written in this thread you'll see i'm not universially agreeing with bethsoft either. What i'm criticizing is the immature tone in wich you claim to be much wiser than everyone else using silly admin tricks.

Please delete this post as it'll prove my point.
 
Flamefest aside, I can't believe you manage to twist "We're approaching it like we approached Oblivion" (i.e. "as our baby") into another "Morrowind with guns" statement when the more irritating bits are so obvious.

"Cool" and "fresh"? I want a Fallout sequel, not a new brand of chewing gum.

The last thing I want Fallout 3 to be is "cool" or "fresh".

Heck, "fresh" implies that it's innovative and creative and whatnot -- as opposed to all the other games around -- and "cool" implies it has the hypnotic quality of a lava lamp (or any fight scene in the later two thirds of the Matrix trilogy) but lacks any depth whatsoever (because character development isn't "cool").

What's next? "Spiffy"?
 
It's so refreshing when the community picks a fight. It can be about bad news, it can be about good news, it can be about no news at all. At the moment I think were having a snuggle due to Informative PR-bullshit that is already a normality in everyones life. Still we get all aroused from it.

I'm a lover, not a fighter...at least when there is anything to fight about.

Cool and fresh. Hmph. Fallouty Fallout boy smilies are cool :boy: (if you are one of us, you will know). Fallout 2 was fresh compared to Fallout 1, because it was a new story/saga. Just because someone tells you they will make a cool game doesn't mean that what they think is "cool" is the same as your personal "cool".

...so Ashmo...you're disco loving lavalamp queen. Shall we boogy?
*shakes his bottocks to the tune of "Born to be alive - Patrick Hernandez"* :lalala:
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I didn't ask to be called a retard or idiot so please spare me. Normally i have a very pleasent tone.

Edit:

If my comments HAD been misplaced or off topic the correct approach would have been to delete the post and send me an explanation/warning. Not to offend me with primitive swearwords and immature avatar mess-ups. Funny thing he called me "kid"
 
cablefish said:
Not to offend me with primitive swearwords and immature avatar mess-ups.

Well a reply like that already proves the point. The avatar does suit you. I'm not really part of this personal offending ritual you are up to, but the lack of "understanding" (can't come up with a better word at the moment) proves that you have no sense of irony or somewhat harmless offensive behaviour.

I do agree that it is childish, but being too adultish is as worse also. Being childish is because people a immature and don't know much about the world yet. To stuff you adulthood down peoples throat is also immature.

One can be a young dickhead, and one can be a grown up dickead. If you lower yourself on a certain level it doesn't matter if you are 50-years older or not.

Bottocks is a bad place to store you head. Young or old.
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Hello i am new to the forum :D .
Can't understand why everyone hates bethesda and think that they will make the game like ES.Fallout was long time dead because idiots of interplay.There is no better firm to make new fallout than bethesda,wait at least to see first concept art,screnshots or other info before talk.Bethesda knows that fans want the game to be like the first two and i don't think that they will make dramatic changes(except the graphics and maybe the turn based combats [which are best for fallout :cry: ] ) .

P.S: sorry for my english and don't go mad of my post , my favored game is fallout(2) so i know how you people feel :boy: .
P.S.S: just saw Spellchek(very usefull)
 
Ooh...wait i'm getting a brainfreeze!

...might DeadOne be a alter ego...


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ahahahaha :P nice image,i want to say that i whach the site from two monts and i think is the best place to find info about Fallout related stuff,and i saw that mod for morrowind Ashes of apocalypse and there guns sucked :( is that why got the idea oblivion +guns :?:
regards thetexasranger
 
No, he's not a multi, he's just naturally retar^H^H^H^H^Hlingustically impaired.
 
DeadOne said:
There is no better firm to make new fallout than bethesda
I believe it's high time statements of this sort were added to the list of those that qualify one for an instant ban.
 
Lol i can't say what i think? Black Isle is no long in the game,people who make the first two fallouts to(i wanted troika games to make it but they are out now to ) I only telled what i think and all started flame me
 
cablefish said:
You're simply incredibly stupid and arrogant. You believe that because you've written the same bullshit 3760 times it's suddenly transformed into a universial truth.

Or, you know, you could READ THE WORDS OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES AND GET A FUCKING CLUE WHERE ZAJCEW HAD THEIR HEAD UP THEIR ASS.

And where your head is crammed up his ass alongside.

The most comical thing is that I'm suppsoed to change my mind when some random asswipe with 6 posts comes along and tries to tell me, in the most uneducated of ways, over the original developers and the obvious design of the game, that they have a right to post stupid, clueless shit onto my forums that only encourages clueless developers to sell out because of some random idiot, encourage it in others, and I'm supposed to be happy about it.

WOW. Lay down the crack pipe, son.

If YOU read the stuff i have written in this thread you'll see i'm not universially agreeing with bethsoft either. What i'm criticizing is the immature tone in wich you claim to be much wiser than everyone else using silly admin tricks.

No, I've read it, and you got just rewards for encouraging someone who was posting stupidity without any backing behind it, just like you have done since.

I didn't ask to be called a retard or idiot so please spare me. Normally i have a very pleasent tone.

That doesn't matter when you post retarded shit. If you don't want to be regarded as a retard, don't post stupid shit. Simple common sense, which you don't seem to be able to apply.

If my comments HAD been misplaced or off topic the correct approach would have been to delete the post and send me an explanation/warning. Not to offend me with primitive swearwords and immature avatar mess-ups. Funny thing he called me "kid"

So, you didn't even bother to read the forum rules. So why does it come as a surprise when we punish you for failing to do so?

Please delete this post as it'll prove my point.

No, we don't delete moronic attention whores. We usually archive them to laugh at them for years to come as their idiocy becomes even more hilarious. This was done for the moronic apologists for MicroForté and Fallout Tactics, for the moronic apologists for Chuck Cuevas and Fallout: Enforcer, and it will be done with you and the rest of the apologists that are too clueless to read between the lines and cut through the PR-speek.

"Cool" and "fresh" are trendwords, ones that do not suit Fallout as Fallout was a THROWBACK to P&P RGPs when it was created in 1997. It was DESIGNED to seem retro, down to the fiction style, of the old school. It was designed as a solid game with its own characteristics, since the CRPG genre was becoming formulaic and stale in the mid-90's with the death of Ultima and other series.

Considering you obviously didn't bother to read the required reading in depth, I'm supposed to honor your moronic arguments and defenses of some other idiot, when you both don't display a single clue about why the game was created, why it had its impact, and still don't care to form a clue when I put the facts into your face? And, of course, I'm supposed to take Zajcew's and your garbage over that of the original designers themselves. I'm not stopping you or anyone else from educating yourselves, from reading the material detailing why Fallout was designed the way it was with such care, or from figuring out what made Fallout truly great. It wasn't just because of the story, or some superficial points of the setting, it was because of ALL OF IT. It might surprise the children like you, but the creators of Fallout went to work with a specific idea in mind, and when GURPS fell through, they tried their damndest anyways. It obviously worked. Now we have morons who don't see the problem in destroying it.

Yet we're supposed to coddle you and the rest of the children naive of that, who are selfish to the point of validating Chuck Cuevas, and take them credibly when they say that certain aspects of Fallout aren't important and then outright lie about others.

Chances are, you probably weren't old enough to recognize Fallout's impact post-release, and yet that is how the PR guy is now trying to educate himself about Fallout, by playing the games. So, naturally, people like Zajcew and you seem to think that Fallout is just yet another story set in an engine, interchangeable with anything else as today's swill has been rendered, nay, "refined" into. Which is everything Fallout stood AGAINST. He probably doesn't know what the state of the industry was then, in how people were getting sick of crap fantasy games being spewed out like BioWare is doing now, and games like Albion and Fallout came out to help breathe new life into the genre. Albion did well for the non-US market, Fallout did it for the world.

Pete's doing this months after Bethesda got the license, which was itself done months after the PR guy should have been clued in, because he obviously didn't have a clue then. Pete is the spokesman for the developers at Bethesda, and he's clueless, and is JUST NOW trying to develop a clue. Given what has been said about Fallout by other Bethesda developers, this could be taken as indicative of the whole team, especially when the Head Nimrod In Charge of the project, Todd Howard, also says some spectacularly stupid things.

Take your idiocy elsewhere then, kid, because that kind of immature prattle is something we don't care for, and neither is encouraging it in others appreciated. Save it for the GameSpy forums. In fact, go back there, now, I'm tired of your uneducated crap while you presume to tell me what to do.
 
What I got from Pete Hines statement is there not going to half ass it, they're gonna treat it like they were working on their franchise game

Not "it's gonna be ES with teh gunz and ulll luv/buy it!!!!!!111111111111111"
 
Mondo said:
What I got from Pete Hines statement is there not going to half ass it, they're gonna treat it like they were working on their franchise game

Half-ass it IS how they've been treating their own IP, moron.

Except for where it counts for the apparent cattle in the crowd, the graphics and ability to min/max in guilds for more phat lewt as the sole aspects of "role-playing", the pinnacle of role-playing as the developers apparently believe as well. Oh, and they're tinkering with AI when they should be more concerned with their hollow design. AI or RNG development doesn't replace design. Even Feargus and Bishop both are bright enough to know that.

Not "it's gonna be ES with teh gunz and ulll luv/buy it!!!!!!111111111111111"

"How they developed Oblivion" and the rest of the crap Pete said is indeed the point of the discussion, not that he said "it will be just like Oblivion, but with guns", but that is where indications lead with his choice of words. He is discussing the treatment of theirs towards the IP, and the treatment towards their own IP has been questionable since they skullfucked TES into Morrowind for console trash, which is what I and others were talking about. Except those who ignorantly defended any change in the intended design of Fallout for superficial reasons, including that they are too stupid to know why, argue that the styles were used for technological reasons and can be scrapped, and then some are too stupid to fully read posts by the idiots they are trying to defend.

If it means butcher down Fallout as they have with TES so it will befit console trash, shiny and shitty at the same time as parallel to their treatment of Morrowind to the rest of the TES games, then I'm inclined to agree. Of course, given their design preference with TES, then this also means that they will RNG Fallout 3 pretty badly, it will be shiny, and only computers in the testing lab are capable of rendering more than three enemies at the same time due to the engine. It would essentially be TES with guns, if not with the same viewpoint, if they approach the design in the same way they approached Oblivion's, the same way they claimed to have innovated and make Morrowind spectacular, when the only notable part of the title was the construction kit and how any moron was able to make lame mods, and some were able to spank the original developers by adding in real design to the starting town.

THAT part, kid, is what is known as "reading between the lines" and "developing a clue", not to mention "ability to think for yourself" as well. In deference to you, cause and effect.

They have made some serious claims, and I intend to see that they keep every one of them, or their lies will be fully documented on this site. In particular the claim about developing the game as if they designed the first two. That, in itself, implies ignorace as the design differences between each of those is quite noticable, so are they going for the dark irony of Fallout, or the lame X-Files Monty Python easter egg bullshit of Fallout 2? Both games were developed by different teams, and it's starting to be obvious with their lack of attention that their work will not even be on par with BIS' SLAM DUNK! of Fallout 2. It will be more like Chuck Cuevas, given their claims and what they have said in the past.

Thank you for sharing your reading disability with us. Reply again without fully reading the thread, and the offer to show you the way back to GameSpy goes for you too.
 
Rosh,aren't you bored to reply to each and every new newbie that comes to this forum brain-farting about fo3?
And it's going to get worst when the masses of the elderscrolls fanbois find out about this place
Write an article,make it a sticky or even better,place a fuckin Blinking gif on the top of the screen(where that pipboy face pic is now) and point them to that.

They have made some serious claims, and I intend to see that they keep every one of them, or their lies will be fully documented on this site. In particular the claim about developing the game as if they designed the first two. That, in itself, implies ignorace as the design differences between each of those is quite noticable, so are they going for the dark irony of Fallout, or the lame X-Files Monty Python easter egg bullshit of Fallout 2? Both games were developed by different teams, and it's starting to be obvious with their lack of attention that their work will not even be on par with BIS' SLAM DUNK! of Fallout 2. It will be more like Chuck Cuevas, given their claims and what they have said in the past.

They've said in an interview,somewhere that their target is fallout 1's style.Whether that is true or public rellations bullshit has yet to be proved.
 
Hey roshambo ("kid" in the rest of the post). Where in my text do you read all that shit you're all mad about. Where did i post that bethsoft is gonna make a great game? I said that i cant see how they are gonna make the cool feedback that FO made.

I need education? I've seen "duck and cover" many times over looking for references to fallout. I know why the laser guns have little oldschool needle-meters on them. I know why its a cadillac you can buy and not a fucking mercedes. Fallout is more than a game. Its an retro 50's experience. Its a historical dokumentation to what people actually believed a nuclear war would bring.

Why do you go all ballistic on the question of 2d vs 3d and turnbased vs realtime. When all the "education" i seem to be needing is telling me that the challange for bethsoft dont depend on their graphix or combat system. It lies in making the game in the same athmosphere as the two prequels. Something i doubt they'll be able to do kid.

My question is this kid. Isn't it a waste of effort to make pettitions and all sorts of angry gestures at bethsoft demmanding the game to be 2d and turn-based while completely missing the imo more important issue on whether they are able to get ANY of the retro experience that fallout had into their game? Dont you think that'll be worth an effort?
 
Just stfu already... personally I cant imagine a complete FPS fallout, that to me is NOT fallout. Bethesdas games have been mostly crap especially in the combat department, they are not the best people to make fallout 3, and if they are I think they should just bury the name rather than tainting it with the upcoming F3.
 
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