Fallout 4 announced with official trailer

[Walpknut]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

 

[Marionettetc]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

The grand irony is that it's statements like this that make YOU sound like a teenager.

Megadeth has long been recognized as one of the best progressive thrash metal bands of all time, until much later in their career.

 

[mdf_365]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

The grand irony is that it's statements like this that make YOU sound like a teenager.

Megadeth has long been recognized as one of the best progressive thrash metal bands of all time, until much later in their career.

Yeah, not a Megadeth fan (though they have a few jams) - however, the thing that made them interesting for me was the melodies (on the instrumental side) and the structures of their songwriting. They aren't in my pantheon (for songwriters) but they weren't top 40's popsong formats either. Mustaine's voice is junk but he was probably doing the best he could without handing over control of vocals to someone else.

Also, there's a rumor a ghoul will be named Mustaine in FO4 - can anyone confirm this???

 

[mef]

How could anyone here confirm this? We're not making this game (sadly)

 

[Walpknut]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

The grand irony is that it's statements like this that make YOU sound like a teenager.

Megadeth has long been recognized as one of the best progressive thrash metal bands of all time, until much later in their career.

So not liking a Thrash metal band whose fanbase is mostly teenagers makes me a teenager. I hope you realize how hilarious that statement is.

 

[Hellion]

Megadeth is still a better Thrash band than Fallout 4 will ever be, judging by the trailer.

...and we're back in!

 

[TorontoReign]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

The grand irony is that it's statements like this that make YOU sound like a teenager.

Megadeth has long been recognized as one of the best progressive thrash metal bands of all time, until much later in their career.

So not liking a Thrash metal band whose fanbase is mostly teenagers makes me a teenager. I hope you realize how hilarious that statement is.

Teenagers are too young for Megadeth. I've met teenagers who have never heard of Nirvana. Granted they were idiots. They also thought Fallout 3 was the best RPG ever made.

 

[Hassknecht]

Megadeth are pretty cool. Well, they'd be much cooler if it weren't for Dave Mustaine, who descended into entertaining madness recently, and will also burn in hell for thinking he could play with an orchestra. That was the worst rendition of Vivaldi's "Summer" I've ever heard, and I've heard myself playing it.
... Why are we talking about Megadeth again?
I just realised I know a person who pre-ordered Fallout 4. He's dead to me.

Ok, not really, the guy is like twice my size in all directions.

 

[Walpknut]

I have seen plenty of teenagers with Nirvana and Megadeth t-shirts. There is like an entire subset of teens that like to feel edgy because they like 80-90's music. I know this because I have a nephew who is just becoming 14.

 

[Juza The Cloud]

No, it just makes you incorrect. You argued that that it was not complex and melodic. Marionettetc explained why, they are a progressive thrash metal band and musically are complex and melodic. Also is its pretty common knowledge. Also saying classic thrash metal band (from the 80's) only has a teenage fan base is pretty juvenile and a strawman. Listen I don"t even have a dog in this fight (not a Megadeth guy myself)

Are you on those types that can just never be proven wrong esp in a message board? Your use of snark as a defensive mechanism doesn't help your argument and shows a lack a maturity . I expect you to reply and say how "butthurt" I am and to "Relax".

 

[Hassknecht]

Now, while Megadeth are certainly somewhat "progressive" compared to other Thrash bands, I wouldn't call them especially complex. Melodic, yeah, somewhat, but not very demanding.
Funny thing that just today I listened to "Rust In Peace" again, and it's still a goddamn awesome album.

 

[Walpknut]

Edgelord is a funny word. It either makes people giggle or makes them supermad when they hear it.
I am also pretty sure most of it's fans started out as teenagers and their style is very alluring to the kind of "edgy" teenager that wears metal t-shirts to school. I mean if you like it that's fine, most of their material is pretty trite nowadays, they have some good ones on their earlier years but even those aren't that incredible to me. And I used to be one of those "edgy" teens like 9 years ago (altho even then Megadeth were kind of a boring band to me), so I know those. There are some edgy teens in ther 20's too, met a lot of those in Uni, all of them had Megadeth t-shirts.

Anyway back on topic, Fallout 4 is a thing that will exist. The E3 conference is right around the corner, so we won't wait too long for more news.

 

[FearMonkey]

Anyway back on topic, Fallout 4 is a thing that will exist. The E3 conference is right around the corner, so we won't wait too long for more news.

Can't believe it's only six days from now. lol

 

[SikTh]

Y'know Megadeth sampled Inkspots for their song "Set the World Afire" on their album So Far...So Good... So What. This album pre-dated Fallout by 9 years. So clearly Todd Howard is clearly missing the proper influence for having the Inkspots song in the original Fallout opening. So if he really understands Fallout, he needs to license a ton of Megadeth tracks in Fallout 4.

That godawful Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel actually had a bunch of Meshuggah songs in it, and a bunch of industrial metal bands, really strange! Also Walpknut, only a bitter old git would use level stupefying generalisations at a band's fanbase - 'edgelord teenager music' - are you having a laugh? I can't understand this whole logic of ' I know, I'll critisise people who are into this to make myself feel superior.' What's with the obsession with this perceived 'edginess', too? You seem totally obsessed and offended by this idea (as baseless as it is), did it not cross your mind that the people just enjoy the sound of the music? No problem with having an opinion/disliking something but you seem to be making a point of being a bit of a dickhead about it.

 

[Marionettetc]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

The grand irony is that it's statements like this that make YOU sound like a teenager.

Megadeth has long been recognized as one of the best progressive thrash metal bands of all time, until much later in their career.

So not liking a Thrash metal band whose fanbase is mostly teenagers makes me a teenager. I hope you realize how hilarious that statement is.

No, ignoring the actual classically trained Mustaine's compositions or Marty Friedman's (who is considered a musical virtuoso technically and theoretically) compositions makes you sound like a teenager. It's a juvenile statement.

It's pretty obvious you're not really familiar with the band's music at all.

 

[Caeo]

I've never really liked metal, or anything of that variety. I don't mind listening to it, but I would not choose to listen to it over folk or rock or punk or even indie pop. I'm not sure I understand the appeal.

 

[Marionettetc]

Now, while Megadeth are certainly somewhat "progressive" compared to other Thrash bands, I wouldn't call them especially complex. Melodic, yeah, somewhat, but not very demanding.
Funny thing that just today I listened to "Rust In Peace" again, and it's still a goddamn awesome album.

As far as thrash goes, yeah they aren't watchtower or spastic ink or cynic or spiral architect, but you get my meaning. Technical complexity isn't the only necessity for prog music.

I think our definitions or Progressive are just a bit different. I view it as challenging accepted and standard music. The 10 minute riff fests and bizarre time signatures/keys are just a bi-product of the genre.

 

[Hassknecht]

Never liked the sound of Megadeth, sounds too much like edgelord Teenager music. Only superficially "heavy" while not going all the way and having no intersting melodies or composition.

The grand irony is that it's statements like this that make YOU sound like a teenager.

Megadeth has long been recognized as one of the best progressive thrash metal bands of all time, until much later in their career.

So not liking a Thrash metal band whose fanbase is mostly teenagers makes me a teenager. I hope you realize how hilarious that statement is.

No, ignoring the actual classically trained Mustaine's compositions or Marty Friedman's (who is considered a musical virtuoso technically and theoretically) compositions makes you sound like a teenager. It's a juvenile statement.

It's pretty obvious you're not really familiar with the band's music at all.

Mustaine classically trained? Have you heard him play classical music?

Yeah, I don't see that. Not in his compositions (which are a tad bit better than the usual Bay Area Thrash bands, but that's not hard to manage), either.

/edit:

Now, while Megadeth are certainly somewhat "progressive" compared to other Thrash bands, I wouldn't call them especially complex. Melodic, yeah, somewhat, but not very demanding.
Funny thing that just today I listened to "Rust In Peace" again, and it's still a goddamn awesome album.

As far as thrash goes, yeah they aren't watchtower or spastic ink or cynic or spiral architect, but you get my meaning. Technical complexity isn't the only necessity for prog music.

I think our definitions or Progressive are just a bit different. I view it as challenging accepted and standard music. The 10 minute riff fests and bizarre time signatures/keys are just a bi-product of the genre.

Yeah, I don't hear them doing that all that much, either.
I have to admit, my view of progressive (metal) music is kinda skewed these days by the whole realm of Experimental and Technical Death Metal.
Have you heard of Orgone? "The Joyless Parson" is one of the most mindblowing records of the past few decades, really.

 

[TorontoReign]

I have seen plenty of teenagers with Nirvana and Megadeth t-shirts. There is like an entire subset of teens that like to feel edgy because they like 80-90's music. I know this because I have a nephew who is just becoming 14.

I have seen 0 teenagers with Megadeth shirts. Doesn't mean they don't exist. I doubt they are the primary demographic for a fucking 80's band regardless. I enjoy maybe two of their albums at most, but I wouldn't dismiss a fairly popular band as teenager "edginess". We'll just have to disagree.

/end

 

[Walpknut]

Yeah, I guess. Anyway let's move talk about this lame band to another thread.

Anyway, how much do you think they'll touch on the E3 conference? I mean beyond the typical "see that mountain there? You can climb it" stuff.