Fallout 4 gameplay videos leaked, Bethesda starts taking them down

[youlstn]

I think they just try to do too many things...

"A huge weapon mod system? ...yea, let's do that.
Settlement building? ...sure.
110,000 lines of dialog? ...ok
Cinematic close-ups that put a spot light on facial expressions? ...no prob."

That's my guess, anyway.

Todd says, "We look for elegance. Not simplicity" http://www.newsweek.com/2015/11/13/fallout-4-todd-howard-389473.html Sometimes it's better to do a few things well than try to create an all-you-can-eat buffet.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Mainly because the buffet ends tasting shit.

 

[Kilus]

Fallout 4 PC settings:

 

[whirlingdervish]

Almost word for word the same settings as Skyrim on PC.

color me shocked

 

[Wastewander]

Well, it's the same engine so that's to be expected.

 

[Money4U]

Odd, but I don't see a single option for water this time.. Also it looks like it still be DX9 game, hope I'm wrong.

 

[Battlecross]

The Institute is going to be run by a branch or splinter faction of the Enclave I just know it. I'm calling it!

Dammit, on the one hand it makes sense because of course the Enclave would have invested in tech institutes. On the other hand, New Vegas was the perfect Swan Song for the last of the Enclave remnants, and anything that ruins that is gonna to highly disappoint me.

Its Bethesda so of course its going to be disappointing, convoluted and mind numbing dumb. But everyone loved the Enclave as villains and we need to make this game be plot for plot the same as Fallout 3 because nobody likes things that are different.

Why did they lose the spark that made Morrowind a literary treasure, where did they collapse into monotony and boring writing?

Lord of the Rings happened (which itself is garbage when viewed in retrospect ), and the Marketing Department[SUP]TM[/SUP] got one of those huge, shiny lightbulbs popping up above their heads. It's stayed there ever since

In fact, they are all frozen in position in the same office, only requiring a moist sponge to be patted around their lips every now and then.

As a huge fan of the books, if you mean the LOTR movies they aren't garbage at all. The Hobbit ones on the other hand are very disappointing.

Also can I say seeing most of you go crazy over everything that leaks is rather hilarious? I do hope you know how you look when you make wild assumptions and constant sarcastic posts trying to mock it. Much funnier than fanboys squealing over it. Your anger is palpable, and entertaining!

 

[Dr Fallout]

The Institute is going to be run by a branch or splinter faction of the Enclave I just know it. I'm calling it!

Dammit, on the one hand it makes sense because of course the Enclave would have invested in tech institutes. On the other hand, New Vegas was the perfect Swan Song for the last of the Enclave remnants, and anything that ruins that is gonna to highly disappoint me.

Its Bethesda so of course its going to be disappointing, convoluted and mind numbing dumb. But everyone loved the Enclave as villains and we need to make this game be plot for plot the same as Fallout 3 because nobody likes things that are different.

Why did they lose the spark that made Morrowind a literary treasure, where did they collapse into monotony and boring writing?

Lord of the Rings happened (which itself is garbage when viewed in retrospect ), and the Marketing Department[SUP]TM[/SUP] got one of those huge, shiny lightbulbs popping up above their heads. It's stayed there ever since

In fact, they are all frozen in position in the same office, only requiring a moist sponge to be patted around their lips every now and then.

As a huge fan of the books, if you mean the LOTR movies they aren't garbage at all. The Hobbit ones on the other hand are very disappointing.

Also can I say seeing most of you go crazy over everything that leaks is rather hilarious? I do hope you know how you look when you make wild assumptions and constant sarcastic posts trying to mock it. Much funnier than fanboys squealing over it. Your anger is palpable, and entertaining!

I love it how you say 'as a huge fan of books' and then defend the movies.

Wild assumptions? Totally wild! Can I bet 10 bucks that we're right?

 

[Walpknut]

Eh, some people like both. I don't like either, but I wouldn't call the books bad, Tolkien is an excellent writter and he put a lot of effort into the setting details, is just that I don't like High Fantasy that much. The movies tho, they have a lotof stupid Holywoodized crap, like Legolas Skateboarding on a Shield down some stairs...

 

[Dr Fallout]

Eh, some people like both. I don't like either, but I wouldn't call the books bad, Tolkien is an excellent writter and he put a lot of effort into the setting details, is just that I don't like High Fantasy that much. The movies tho, they have a lotof stupid Holywoodized crap, like Legolas Skateboarding on a Shield down some stairs...

Well actually Tolkien started generic fantasy, which is why he suffers from being original... when his books first came out.

 

[Walpknut]

I know, but I was overly exposed to High Fantasy through my formative years, and instead of becoming enamoured with it like most I actually grew tired of it.

 

[zegh8578]

Honesty time - I am very fascinated with Tolkiens "legendarium", he took a lot of typical European mythology and made a very "ultimate" story of good versus evil, with amazing diversity

The movies... watch them again, and watch them closely. I think people were just overcome by the "FINALLY!!!" of it, rather than the actual quality of the films - as quality films, cus they aren't.
Imagine Steven Spielberg directing them, or something, someone skillful, a directing "power-house"
Everyone thinks Peter Jackson is some genius because of LOTR, but Braindead and Meet the Feebles <---that guy... The result, well, it shows.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Honesty time - I am very fascinated with Tolkiens "legendarium", he took a lot of typical European mythology and made a very "ultimate" story of good versus evil, with amazing diversity

The movies... watch them again, and watch them closely. I think people were just overcome by the "FINALLY!!!" of it, rather than the actual quality of the films - as quality films, cus they aren't.
Imagine Steven Spielberg directing them, or something, someone skillful, a directing "power-house"
Everyone thinks Peter Jackson is some genius because of LOTR, but Braindead and Meet the Feebles <---that guy... The result, well, it shows.

Agreed. The movies were meh, but the books (if generic) were really good.

 

[DerGogan]

Why did they lose the spark that made Morrowind a literary treasure, where did they collapse into monotony and boring writing?

Consoles happened.
To reach a wide range of audience you've got to simplify games / mechanics / etc.

AAA title budgets constantly increased over the years. players want to see everything bigger, prettier. There's (almost) no room for "hardcore" RPG's like Morrowind.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Why did they lose the spark that made Morrowind a literary treasure, where did they collapse into monotony and boring writing?

Consoles happened.
To reach a wide range of audience you've got to simplify games / mechanics / etc.

AAA title budgets constantly increased over the years. players want to see everything bigger, prettier. There's (almost) no room for "hardcore" RPG's like Morrowind.

And writing, why with their multi-million budgets decided to forsake writing?

 

[DerGogan]

Well, it keeps you from shooting people in the face

Don't know. You can't say that every AAA title has shitty writing. Just think the younger generation is little impatient, they got their playing priority somewhere else

 

[Willy Rogers]

Why did they lose the spark that made Morrowind a literary treasure, where did they collapse into monotony and boring writing?

Consoles happened.
To reach a wide range of audience you've got to simplify games / mechanics / etc.

AAA title budgets constantly increased over the years. players want to see everything bigger, prettier. There's (almost) no room for "hardcore" RPG's like Morrowind.

Well, Morrowind and a few other RPGs like KOTOR were on console at that time. Honestly, I blame focus groups and dumbass execs more than I blame consumers, though they have become part of the problem.

 

[zegh8578]

Why did they lose the spark that made Morrowind a literary treasure, where did they collapse into monotony and boring writing?

Consoles happened.
To reach a wide range of audience you've got to simplify games / mechanics / etc.

AAA title budgets constantly increased over the years. players want to see everything bigger, prettier. There's (almost) no room for "hardcore" RPG's like Morrowind.

Good point as well

Every time we, the players, demand more - and this requires more employees, more work hours, more stuff in the games.
Movies are easily marketed, because entire populations go watch them, they can rake in shit-tons of money
With games, the ammount of work demanded is almost exponential, while the target audience does not necesarily grow - OR include "the whole family"
On top of that, a major chunk of the players do not always pay for them ( )

This leads to a lot of short cuts and trade-offs, in order to give the impression of keeping up with the other #1's

And writing, why with their multi-million budgets decided to forsake writing?

Feedback and Marketing Department
Among young gaming population, the happy readers are in minority
At first, this isn't much of a problem "we will simply sell to those who don't mind reading."
Marketing Department goes "You mean, the staggeringly slim minority?"

 

[Walpknut]

Modern gamers have been brainwashed into believing all the ridiculous claims AAA companies make, like "Survival Horror is dead!" or "Turn Based is outdated". Some people will even mention that if the series hadn't "evolved" Fallout would still be an Isometric RPG, like if that was a bad thing automatically....

Meanwhile with this inflated budgets, "Cinematic Presentations" and Hype machines we are getting more and more unfinished games at inflated prices. I mean jsut look at Arkham Knight, pretty mediocre entry into the series by itself, but not content with that they released a PC port so bad they had to remove it from the store.... And it's back in the store now... Still broken as fuck, still 50 dollars.... But noW it comes with TF2 HATS! And Microtransactions in the form of Skins.... of which half of them are models already in the game!

 

[Willy Rogers]

Funny thing is they (corporate AAA) are all full of shit. Wasteland 2 is selling on consoles, XCOM:EU sold on consoles both with no real changes other than gamepad support. Hell, we've got a remake of a 17 year old game series selling to everybody on mobile and PC. They're just a bunch of inbred morons who can't handle failure so just try to twist their failures into success. Granted, they've succeeded somewhat, but for every success there have been multiple failures.