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Let's say you're leading a group of mercenaries in Iraq. You're besieged by ISIS insurgents. A random stranger off the street helps kill some of them. Is the natural thing to do give him leadership?

I love these random, stilted attempts at comparisons to real life and what's with bringing up ISIS?

IT'S A VIDEO GAME. For fuck's sake.

You're right! Fuck gravity, physics, Human nature and shit like that.

You guys try so hard to make mountains out of molehills and then cobble together the worst comparisons to back up these things. This is a video game. A video game with deathclaws. And mutants. And ghouls. After the apocalypse. You help save a group and what tiny remnants are left decide you should run things, that maybe that would change their luck. What's the issue?

Guise, vidyagaems can't ever make sense! Why are you trying to put logic! It's absurd!

Your strawman is showing.
 
Games should make some logical sense. Just because it's a game doesn't make it an excuse, for example Morrowind, it takes reputation, skill and trust of the guild leaders to become leader. There is a progression that makes SENSE.

Of larger, more involved and not on the ropes and nearly dead group headed by a guy who doesn't want leadership? Oh. Wait.

>Not being able to compare FALLOUT (a game hugely about human nature) to real life

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Oh my god. It's like talking to insane people. Wait. It is talking to insane people!
 
Games should make some logical sense. Just because it's a game doesn't make it an excuse, for example Morrowind, it takes reputation, skill and trust of the guild leaders to become leader. There is a progression that makes SENSE.

Of larger, more involved and not on the ropes and nearly dead group headed by a guy who doesn't want leadership? Oh. Wait.

Yep and? Giving leadership to random guy on the streets is not smart. Do at least some more work, take part become a member who works up his way with trust.
 
Let's say you're leading a group of mercenaries in Iraq. You're besieged by ISIS insurgents. A random stranger off the street helps kill some of them. Is the natural thing to do give him leadership?

I love these random, stilted attempts at comparisons to real life and what's with bringing up ISIS?

IT'S A VIDEO GAME. For fuck's sake. A video game where apparently Garvey doesn't want to run the group and listens to a psychic. There is nothing at issue here.

Clearly the modern Triple A game has moved behind the confines of quote-un-quote "Believable characters" and "Internal consistency"
 
You even know what a strawman is? because your entire ergument is basically that, "it's a videogame" you have said it before. You think that's an actual defense for a work and you are perplexed at trying to put logic for some reason.

Again, the situation has been explained in a video game context and trying to go "Herp derp ISIS herp derp" is just about the worst comparison possible when worlds are compared.

I do know what a strawman is, it's when you constantly take what I say and basically invent an argument I haven't made. I never said games can't have logic, but yet you claim I did. Strawman. The definition. Unlike "appeals to nihilism" when they make no sense.

Games should make some logical sense. Just because it's a game doesn't make it an excuse, for example Morrowind, it takes reputation, skill and trust of the guild leaders to become leader. There is a progression that makes SENSE.

Of larger, more involved and not on the ropes and nearly dead group headed by a guy who doesn't want leadership? Oh. Wait.

Yep and? Giving leadership to random guy on the streets is not smart. Do at least some more work, take part become a member who works up his way with trust.

Yes a tiny group that is almost entirely dead that needs saving and you save it.
 
Videogames don't have to worry about having quality writting, that's for hipsters.

You just call any comparison to real life absurd, even when it's basically a 1 to 1 comparison of what a game mechanic or situation is trying to emulate, you think that calling something "absurd" counts as an argument and you already said twice "It's a vidyagaem!" as a defense for things not making sense. I am not makign up any arguments, you just keep making nonsensical arguments, that's all.
 
Let's say you're leading a group of mercenaries in Iraq. You're besieged by ISIS insurgents. A random stranger off the street helps kill some of them. Is the natural thing to do give him leadership?

I love these random, stilted attempts at comparisons to real life and what's with bringing up ISIS?

IT'S A VIDEO GAME. For fuck's sake.

You're right! Fuck gravity, physics, Human nature and shit like that.

You guys try so hard to make mountains out of molehills and then cobble together the worst comparisons to back up these things. This is a video game. A video game with deathclaws. And mutants. And ghouls. After the apocalypse. You help save a group and what tiny remnants are left decide you should run things, that maybe that would change their luck. What's the issue?

Guise, vidyagaems can't ever make sense! Why are you trying to put logic! It's absurd!

Your strawman is showing.

Its fantastic realism. Like most fiction should be.
 
Let's say you're leading a group of mercenaries in Iraq. You're besieged by ISIS insurgents. A random stranger off the street helps kill some of them. Is the natural thing to do give him leadership?

I love these random, stilted attempts at comparisons to real life and what's with bringing up ISIS?

IT'S A VIDEO GAME. For fuck's sake.

You're right! Fuck gravity, physics, Human nature and shit like that.

You guys try so hard to make mountains out of molehills and then cobble together the worst comparisons to back up these things. This is a video game. A video game with deathclaws. And mutants. And ghouls. After the apocalypse. You help save a group and what tiny remnants are left decide you should run things, that maybe that would change their luck. What's the issue?

Guise, vidyagaems can't ever make sense! Why are you trying to put logic! It's absurd!

Your strawman is showing.

Its fantastic realism. Like most fiction should be.

Uh huh, and the reasons for why it makes sense have been given in context of the game and world it is in.

Videogames don't have to worry about having quality writting, that's for hipsters.

See? Again. Stop it.
 
Stop what? maybe you should stop saying dumb stuff if you don't want people counter arguing you?

"it's a videogame" that was your argument. Despite the example given being perfectly applicable.

You're not counter arguing, you're babbling nonsensical strawman that aren't anything I've said and my argument went beyond that. So you're also a liar. You endlessly misrepresent what I say and then claim I have no argument. It's like you've got braaaaain problems son.
 
Its fantastic realism. Like most fiction should be.

Uh huh, and the reasons for why it makes sense have been given in context of the game and world it is in

Lim sorry, what about the nature of a retro futuristic post apocalyptic setting should make somebody give control of his organization over to someone they just met that they know nothing about?
 
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