Fallout 4's first review

Dionysus said:
I think New Vegas might seem to be less scaled than FO3 because it starts you in a place that is very close to dangerous areas, and you will probably die if you don't go where the game tells you to go.
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I managed to go straight to vegas.

Also, your name is beautiful.
 
Yea, but in Fallout New Vegas you don't get Super Mutants that get upgraded to better models as you level up. At one point NCR and The Legion do start fielding better troops, but it is actually explained in the game, characters take note that shit is about to go down and the Second Battle of Hoover Dam draws near.
So yes, eventually you do get tougher enemies, but there is a narrative reason for it. This is the right way to implement scaling enemies, unlike Skyrim where in the beginning bandits basically wear rags, just to get full suits of daedric or glass armor when you're high-level. There's no in-universe reason for it, nobody addresses it and nobody finds it odd.
 
Askorti said:
Yea, but in Fallout New Vegas you don't get Super Mutants that get upgraded to better models as you level up. At one point NCR and The Legion do start fielding better troops, but it is actually explained in the game, characters take note that shit is about to go down and the Second Battle of Hoover Dam draws near.
So yes, eventually you do get tougher enemies, but there is a narrative reason for it. This is the right way to implement scaling enemies, unlike Skyrim where in the beginning bandits basically wear rags, just to get full suits of daedric or glass armor when you're high-level. There's no in-universe reason for it, nobody addresses it and nobody finds it odd.
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That happens in Oblivion. In Skyrim they just scale in level.
 
Kilus said:
The only one that cares about IBT here is you. The review is short and undetailed but if IBT wants short and undetailed review then that is their prerogative. IBT's review probably wouldn't have been featured here if released with the other reviews when the embargo lifts but they released first and thus a run of the mill review in a non gaming website became notable.
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To say that I'm the only one that cares about the ibt review is pretty damn unfair of you , considering it wasn't me that started the thread using the ibt review as discussion. Obviously someone else cared enough to use it as the basis of a thread. So to say what you said is an untruth. All I'm doing is questioning the legitimacy of the review.

Also, it's not actually a review, its a few throwaway statements that have been cobbled together. The mere fact they whine about trying to hide from molerats for 10 hours sent alarm bells ringing. You can punch the shit outta molerats and eat their sweet meat within minutes of leaving the vault.

I'm all for reviews that genuinely give an insight to what people will be purchasing. The strengths, the weaknesses, the little things, the big things etc are all things that interest the reader in a review. This site went into the most minimal detail about this game. To call it a review would be stretching it.

Magazines, sites, YouTubers etc have went into enormous detail about the game pre release. Details that this reviewer didn't touch upon. Didn't even mention or highlight.

I'll have my digital copy loaded at midnight tomorrow as I look forward to experiencing fallout 4. If it's poor, I'm not afraid to say so, I'd just be sore at myself for wasting my money.
 
DermoiD said:
To say that I'm the only one that cares about the ibt review is pretty damn unfair of you , considering it wasn't me that started the thread using the ibt review as discussion. Obviously someone else cared enough to use it as the basis of a thread. So to say what you said is an untruth. All I'm doing is questioning the legitimacy of the review.

Also, it's not actually a review, its a few throwaway statements that have been cobbled together. The mere fact they whine about trying to hide from molerats for 10 hours sent alarm bells ringing. You can punch the shit outta molerats and eat their sweet meat within minutes of leaving the vault.
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I made the news article because it was the first review. Firsts are notable no matter the content. That's also why I made several articles about the leaks, they weren't the greatest footage but they were the first.

A review is a review is a review. It is a critical appraisal of Fallout 4. Whether it is a good review or a poor review it is a review. Disagree with its contents or question the quality of the review or find faults with the facts and logic or dislike its format, that's all valid criticism of the review you can put forward. Claiming it is not a review, that is an invalid argument.
 
Guess we should stop posting news guys. This is a Fallout news site that can't post a review unless it aligns with our agenda and boy do we need the clicks.
 
DermoiD said:
Aniki said:
DermoiD said:
You do realise that "international business times" is just a worthless click bait site? Lol look at the name. It's some Indian dude praying for that sweet click bait moolah. Do some of you have difficulty with comprehension? Look at how crappy the article is written. Guy obviously has never played fallout out and created some degenerate click bait to ride the hype train. Lol people putting stock in a review from a site with the name of international business times. Ahahahahahahahahaha
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Click bait or not Bethesda gave them a free copy to review. It's their own fault for giving it to, as you put it 'some Indian dude who's intentions are only to get that sweet click bait moolah'.
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Shardik said:
DermoiD said:
Aniki said:
DermoiD said:
You do realise that "international business times" is just a worthless click bait site? Lol look at the name. It's some Indian dude praying for that sweet click bait moolah. Do some of you have difficulty with comprehension? Look at how crappy the article is written. Guy obviously has never played fallout out and created some degenerate click bait to ride the hype train. Lol people putting stock in a review from a site with the name of international business times. Ahahahahahahahahaha
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Click bait or not Bethesda gave them a free copy to review. It's their own fault for giving it to, as you put it 'some Indian dude who's intentions are only to get that sweet click bait moolah'.
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Your points are valid, but when you actually read how bad the review is, then you'll know where I come from. I read the review, the guy seems like he has never played ANY fallout game. He makes criticisms without using examples of what is wrong with the game. He never spends time talking about anything different from previous iterations, nor does he even mention any of the improvements in the series. It seems like propagandist click bait. Honestly, from his review, its likely that hrs never played it, never got a review copy. Man, it's called international business times, it's just a fancy name for an Indian click bait site. There's tonnes of them with equally shitty and self important titles. I put no stick in a review that doesn't actually talk about the game that they are ALLEGEDLY reviewing. But, hey, take someone who presented ZERO facts as gospel if you wish. I learnt ZERO about fallout 4 from this click-bait review.
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Let's accept your premise that this reviewer has never played a Fallout game in his life (which IMO is a faulty one - he does after all say that current fans of Fallout 3 will love it, so he may have some sort of experience with that game to use as a reference). Don't you think there might be a problem if a newbie to the Fallout franchise has trouble getting into the game? If this game's going to be the biggest thing EVAH and shatter all sales records, don't you think it better be able to rope a bunch of new players into the franchise? Especially when you consider that from all appearances so far, Bethesda is pretty much telling a significant chunk of their existing customer base, the fans of the originals and New Vegas, to just piss off?

By the way, if you had bothered to look at that link provided earlier, you'd learn that IBT was founded by an American and a Frenchman and its headquarters is in Manhattan. Vincent Balistriere (the review author's name) sounds more Italian than anything else. So where are you getting the idea that it's some kind of "Indian click bait site"?
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I didn't bother to look, because anytime I search games, ibt is usually one of the click bait sites that regurgitate the same bullshit from other sites and talks about games without giving any meaningful details. Lol to consider international business times as legit, says more about those who consider it legit. Its a publication that cannot be taken seriously, at all. But if you want to take such pathetic nonsense as gospel, that's down to you. Just don't get butthurt when people call bullshit on such bullshit "reviews"
For you to actually to consider this as a "review", says it all. Also, I can't help that you're butthurt that it's not more like NV, I preferred Fo3 more anyway, so kudos to Bethesda to keeping true to their own franchise and not buckling to the demands of jilted fanboys. After all they paid for the rights of the franchise, they didn't pay to play lip service to fanboys.
I couldn't care how the game sells, as I'm not some pathetic cod fangirl whereby I'd use sales to justify how I spend my own cash ( couldn't care less if it sells more than "evah", what a dumb, butthurt, bitchy and whiny fangirl statement to make). I already bought my copy, so I don't give a shit about anything except my own experience. Although I'll call bullshit on bullshit. If I don't like the game, I won't be afraid to say, it's my right as a consumer. Go figure.
If you're not happy with what Bethesda has done to the game don't buy it or play it, it's as simple as as that.
Did you actually consider this as a legitimate review? I'd be intrigued to know why you'd consider this as a review and not a pile of click bait bullshit.
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I don't normally respond to people who immediately start throwing personal attacks around, but ...

I don't know what rock you've been living under, but many, if not most, mainstream (non gaming) media outlets review video games. They've been reviewing books, movies and television shows for decades now, and wouldn't be doing their jobs of reporting on cultural/entertainment topics if they didn't review games as well, considering how much gaming has grown. Forbes, as an example, is a news publication that caters mostly to business people, like IBT, and they do lots of game reviews, and some of them are very, very good. Obviously, Bethesda thought enough of IBT to send them a pre-release copy of the game for review.

And why exactly is this not a review? The guy played the game for a few hours, probably as much as he could and still make his deadline, and he shared his opinions on it. Is that not what a review is? Hell, he wasn't even very critical of the game at all - his concerns were that it might not be very accessible for new Fallout players, and that it probably won't be able to live up to its hype. Big shocker there. And yet he's been accused of being an idiot, a moron, an "Indian" whoring for page clicks, and even accused of being on the payroll for Activision or CD Projekt Red or any other studio that you Bethbots have a hate-on for on any given day.

I'll tell you something else as well - I consider game reviews from outfits like Forbes or IBT to be a hell of a lot more credible than the "10/10! Buy this game now or you're a hopeless douche!" rubbish being spewed by Kotaku, IGN and all the rest of the "games journalism" sites. They're just like the Hollywood "reporters", shills and lackeys for the industry they're supposed to be covering. The rules they work under are very simple - "Say only nice things about us, or no soup for you!". Game "journalists" are one of the main reasons why AAA studios get away with so much bullshit these days, things like releasing barely disguised re-skins of previous games at new release prices, locking critical game features behind paywalls, and releasing broken, buggy messes that need a 10 GB Day One "hotfix" and get half-assed support for a few weeks until the studio just throws up its hands and says "Fuck it, modders will fix it. Back to the next $10 armor pack!"

And guess what? I'm not planning on buying this game based on what I've seen of it. Maybe I will at some point once it goes on sale - we'll see. But at this time I'd rather spend that 60 bucks on something else.

Good for you for having already bought your copy. I hope you enjoy it.
 
Walpknut said:
New Vegas Level scaling was only really felt in Lonsome Road, with those ridiculous High Level Tunnelers.
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Old World Blues too, at higher levels the lobotomites and trauma harnesses have really high level weapons and the roboscorpions can be quite tough.
 
THe Lobotomites and Trauma Harnesses still went down with a few shots because their armor sucked, but yeah, those high level Roboscorpions were just annoying.
 
This is kind of off topic but I came across the FO4 soundtrack on youtube. I'm 26 minutes in and this is definitely the most "hopeful" soundtrack we've ever heard in a fallout game, I think a lot of people here are going to hate it. I like the hopeful sound in a fallout game if it's done properly but I think that a lot of these songs don't sound anything even remotely like fallout which is disappointing. Some of the combat songs sound good though.
EDIT: at 59:14 it almost sounds like mass effect music
 
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Paladin Waffles said:
This is kind of off topic but I came across the FO4 soundtrack on youtube. I'm 26 minutes in and this is definitely the most "hopeful" soundtrack we've ever heard in a fallout game, I think a lot of people here are going to hate it. I like the hopeful sound in a fallout game if it's done properly but I think that a lot of these songs don't sound anything even remotely like fallout which is disappointing. Some of the combat songs sound good though.
EDIT: at 59:14 it almost sounds like mass effect music
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I can't help but feel like some of the music is based from Skyrim, which is somewhat annoying.
 
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Walpknut said:
"Fans" of a game that hasn't even come out registering to insult some random review while telling others they are butthurt. Man, are this the first drops of the Bethdrone storm we are going to get next week?
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Working for a reputation management firm must be such a cushy job. Trolling for dollars - that's the life!
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If you watched clueless gamer you'd know that what he does is hardly what could be called a review rather more like making fun of certain parts of the game like 'press X to pay respects' in Call of Duty. Heck his Witcher 3 segment was mostly him talking about wanting to have sex with Yennefer.
 
If your promotional video is being announced by Bethesda and you appear in full cosplay getup with replica gun and everything I can only assume you will shill the shit out of the game.
 
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