Fallout: New Vegas outsells Fallout 3, PS3 fix released

[MurkyShadow]

Problem for me is, it stays shooter. For that one, yeah,
Vegas might be really good for what it is. It's just, I
can't get myself interested, the mechanics, it's not
a kind of game that stirs my love. Would love to love
it, but I can't.

I've heard New Vegas is less of a shooter (or, at least, can be less of a shooter) than Fallout 3 was. Technically, Fallout 1 and 2 were shooters in the loosest sense of the word, but I see your point. A turn based, iso title is more akin to chess than halo.[/quote]

Maybe that's the point. I see myself investing less time in games,
then, let's say, 10 years ago, and I like to kind of relax, do it in
my own time. So I guess I'm just not the target audience
anymore too.

There are some RTS titles I play too, but I rather like the older
C&C titles, then newer iterations of the genre.

One problem with turn based games is often, that
they end up in micromanagement hell.

Ah, don't I sound picky...

 

[jdprince45]

It seemed to me that Fallout 3 was hinting strongly that 4 would take place in the Commonwealth

 

[CxBxW]

Those poor, stupid people who bought it for the consoles...

Played it for ten hours. Enjoying it immensley.

What?

 

[Crni Vuk]

just wait for the modders to warm up

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

y'all DO realize that Fallout depends on "Americana" for it's themetic and aesthetic presentation, right? fucksake i feel like i'm at the Bethie board where nobody really 'gets' Fallout.

 

[mobucks]

Problem for me is, it stays shooter. For that one, yeah,
Vegas might be really good for what it is. It's just, I
can't get myself interested, the mechanics, it's not
a kind of game that stirs my love. Would love to love
it, but I can't.

I was thinking last night while playing, that i needed to go out and start some fights because I hadnt for the past 2 hours of playing. So i went out and got my VATS on.

 

[PlanHex]

VGChartz reports Fallout: New Vegas sold 1.4 million copies, 30% more than Fallout 3 at this point in its release cycle. 850K copies were sold on consoles and 550K on PC, the majority of sales being in North America.

I thought there was something weird about this, so read the article:

Of the 1.4 million units sold, nearly 850,000 units were on Xbox360, 460,000 on PS3 and the remainder on PC

That's only 90K in PC sales.

Don't post news when you're tired BN.

 

[Brother None]

Don't post news when you're tired BN.

Huh. Coulda sworn it said what I typed first time around. Either they fixed it or I'm GOING CRAZY

Probably the latter

It seemed to me that Fallout 3 was hinting strongly that 4 would take place in the Commonwealth

And it will be gloriously stupid.

I've heard New Vegas is less of a shooter (or, at least, can be less of a shooter) than Fallout 3 was.

New Vegas is both mechanically a better shooter than Fallout 3 and technically more of an RPGFPS than Fallout 3.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

y'all DO realize that Fallout depends on "Americana" for it's themetic and aesthetic presentation, right? fucksake i feel like i'm at the Bethie board where nobody really 'gets' Fallout.

Right on the nail!
People are proposing Fallout sequels in the rest of the world but they are forgetting that there are reasons why Fallout is set at the North American continent.

While countries like Europe, Eastern Europe, and Russia have their own take on Post Apocalyptic fiction this often differs from the B science fiction that was used in Fallout.
It might work a little in North Europe but you simply can not transplant it, as you can't suddenly bring the BOS, the NCR or Super Mutants to other continents, despite how many fan wank excuses you bring up.

Also the idea that Van Buren en few ideas the Black Island/Obsidian guys brought up was all that was left to Fallout in the US is just plain silly, there is still plenty to tell, I am just not sure that giant leaps of time are a good thing to do because having the country still in the state of several decades after the War despite the fact that three hundred years have passed is realistic.

I would like if possible, and of Obsidian handled it, that the game moves more Eastwards in the US with any sequels or spin off, letting us know what happened in the familiar parts and the known factions while introducing us to whole new situations and factions/governments.

The Caesar's Legion for example has a very strong presence in Texas, even if they are defeated at Hoover Dam and Mojave there would still be some remnants of them there.

 

[José Cruz]

The Caesar's Legion for example has a very strong presence in Texas, even if they are defeated at Hoover Dam and Mojave there would still be some remnants of them there.

Some remnants? In the non-Caesar ending, The Caesars legion only lost a battle in F:NV, with meant that they wouldn't control New Vegas and surrouding lands.

There is no reason that they should be reduced to "remnants". Also, they still control the other side of the Colorado river, and maybe hundreds of kilometers of land eastward.

Any game taking place in the future decades with the Caesar's legion should have that faction in a stronger position than in F:NV, irrespective if they lost or won the Hoover Dam.

Anyway, I finished the game by convicing the Legate that attacking the NCR would open an additional front in the legion's plan of conquest, reducing the troops available to hold and expand their control of the eastern lands. So I convinced them that attacking hoover dam would reduce their power, so they choose to retreat.

 

[Deimos]

You must be joking. There are plenty of other areas to explore.

This areas must be interesting. Not simply "Lets cover all USA".

The Caesar's Legion for example has a very strong presence in Texas, even if they are defeated at Hoover Dam and Mojave there would still be some remnants of them there.

Its interesting to see great radioactive storms.
But Legion seems to be tribal nomadic organisation.
There is probably no Great Rome in Texas. Maybe...

I think they will leave status quo in Mojave.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

an NYC or Boston-based game would be pretty tits, imo (since i used to live in both cities).

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Or how about the remains of Detroit and Toronto (Ronto)?

In the alternative Fallout universe Detroit might never have suffered an economic collapse as its factories were necessary for the production of military hardware as China never become the economic super power it is in the Real World.
Or one that did not lead to industrial decline in the US as the US handled a strictly 'none Chinese products' policy.

We know that Ronto is a major military power in the Fallout universe.

 

[José Cruz]

Its interesting to see great radioactive storms.
But Legion seems to be tribal nomadic organisation.
There is probably no Great Rome in Texas. Maybe...

I think they will leave status quo in Mojave.

Not...

In the game they stated that they conquered 86 tribes, their forces in Mojave were only a small tip of their empire. The Legion was basically a huge empire of conquered tribals. The NCR also held california, for both nations the outcome of their dispute in New Vegas had limited significance for their long run development.

They were two great powers fighting for a power station in the middle of the mojave. The most radical outcome of this struggle could be the beginning of the annexation of the NCR into the Legion's dominions, since they stated that their final intentions were to reach the ocean and destroy anything in between.

In effect, the most radical outcome of F:NV for the Fallout Lore would be legion's victory in Hoover Dam. They would lauch a full scale invasion of the western US and try to conquer everything.

 

[Empty09]

If the Legion would get their hands on the hoover dam they could just sit back, relax and send the Legate down south with all the stimpaks they can get..and a power armor. Imagine the bullet cases he would acquire in the end.

 

[Deimos]

I hope Central American Enclave will stop Legion.

Two armies collide. Legate Lanius vs repaired Frankie. Epic battle.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Please, honestly, no more fucking Enclave, in any kind of incarnation or version.
I like the theme of three clashing factions, and I do hope they will continue that stuff but it doesn't always have to be the focus in a Fallout game.

I myself always enjoy finding the mystery fourth player behind it all who is really pulling all the strings and has a plan.

 

[Lexx]

I hope Central American Enclave will stop Legion.

Two armies collide. Legate Lanius vs repaired Frankie. Epic battle.

Yea and then the brotherhood of steel jumps in with their new vertibirds. While the big battle is totally rocking on, chinese remnants from frisco awake out of their secret hidden bunker and start attacking all sides. Now because of this new fear spawning out of pure nothing, the ncr, brotherhood, enclave and legion have to make a temporary alliance to fight the new evil.

That's what I call a true Fallout game.

 

[UncleSlappy]

With a repaired Liberty Prime leading the way because nothing screams Fallout like giant mecha.

 

[Makagulfazel]

Fallout: New Vegas sold 1.4 million copies, 30% more than Fallout 3 at this point in its release cycle. 850,000 units were on Xbox360, 460,000 on PS3 and the remainder on PC, the majority of sales being in North America.

Great news(for now, until Zenimax possibly decides to have Bethesda flagship the rest of the series), but it's upsetting to see that console sales seem to be larger in ratio as time passes. Oh well, we get the mod tools and console commands to fix the game, so fuck it.