Favorite Fallout 3 Quest

[Heisenberg]

and has been regarded as the closest thing to a modern Planescape: Torment.

Planescape Torment was a good game though. That puts quite a distance between itself and Disco Elysium. It also was made by Troika and not commies who shout out Marx at their award ceremony.

I like how it goes on to shit on the games you listed out before with its own one-note opinion (if you can even call those one-liners opinions) to shill 3 even more.

Many of those games I can agree are good games. Prey, Witcher 3, etc. But better than Fallout 3? Are you kidding? Witcher 2 and Tyranny were some of the furthest reaches I've ever seen. Just a coping mechanism at this point.

 

[CerberusGate]

not commies who shout out Marx at their award ceremony

If that is what it takes to make you hate a game, woe be to any developers from Russia or former Soviet Union states.

Plus the fact that their game mocks communism as much as capitalism kinda pokes holes into that stretch.

But better than Fallout 3? Are you kidding? Witcher 2 and Tyranny were some of the furthest reaches I've ever seen. Just a coping mechanism at this point.

Or, and try to process this, those were games @SquidVan liked enough to deem above Fallout 3.

Witcher 2 was an improvement over Witcher 1 and had stuff that 3 did remove which some players may not have liked as much. Tyranny was a decent title that had distinctively branching storylines that had distinct outcomes for the factions and the state of the world (I personally enjoyed how I tricked the rebels of the game's setting to swear fealty to me while I remained loyal to Kyros all along).

Subjective opinions are a thing and letting others opinions bother your puts your faith in your opinion in serious question.

 

[Heisenberg]

mocks communism as much as capitalism kinda pokes holes into that stretch

does not change the fact they shouted out Marx at their award ceremony, and one look at their game proves it to be full of pseudointellectual bullshit.

Witcher 2 was an improvement over Witcher 1 and had stuff that 3 did remove which some players may not have liked as much

Witcher 2 was the worst in the series. This is the consensus outside of here and it's true. Much like how Fallout 3 is a great game is true and the consensus.

Tyranny was a decent title that had distinctively branching storylines that had distinct outcomes for the factions and the state of the world (I personally enjoyed how I tricked the rebels of the game's setting to swear fealty to me while I remained loyal to Kyros all along).

And despite this it's still not as good as PoE, which was not even good enough to scratch Fallout 3.

Subjective opinions are a thing and letting others opinions bother your puts your faith in your opinion in serious question.

Take your own advice. Or better yet, tell your fellow users to take your advice.
If you visit other threads, you will know that this guy keeps quoting my posts and begging me for an explanation as to why I like Fallout 3, and then even calling me a "fag" for expressing it.
So yeah, you're completely right. If you let others opinions bother you, your faith in your own opinion gets placed in question. I'm merely asking him for an explanation this time so the shoe gets put on the other foot. It doesn't work one way and not another, sweetie.

 

[CerberusGate]

does not change the fact they shouted out Marx at their award ceremony, and one look at their game proves it to be full of pseudointellectual bullshit.

Well if you can't distance the creator from their work, you only have yourself to blame. Plus I want you to actually show full example of what you refer to as pseudointellectual bull.

This is the consensus outside of here

Funny, the consensus I am aware of is that 1 is the worst in terms of gameplay. It has not aged well unless you like rhythm game-like combat.

And despite this it's still not as good as PoE, which was not even good enough to scratch Fallout 3.

Funny, the consensus around respectable content creators is that Pillars is not Obsidian's best work and that it has its set of problems keeping it from greatness. I like it but it has flaws (personally prefer it over 3 ). Nice part is that opinions vary and result in stellar debate or Youtube videos on said games.

If you visit other threads, you will know that this guy keeps quoting my posts and begging me for an explanation as to why I like Fallout 3, and then even calling me a "fag" for expressing it.

You know, if you can say you like 3 and not be so thin-skinned that you took their barbs personally, you can last here. There are people here who like 3 but don't go around saying it's objectively the best Fallout game free of any flaws (it's not and none of the games are without flaws).

@Risewild is a developer of TTW who likes 3 and has no issue with people not liking 3 at all. Not sure why you feel like you should be offended by others shooting barbs at you and be allowed shoot useless barbs back, at least shoot actual valid and citeable points back.

 

[Heisenberg]

Plus I want you to actually show full example of what you refer to as pseudointellectual bull.

Dialogue for one.
But really the rest of the game doesn't fall short of this either.

distance the creator from their work

You do realize that "distancing the creator" is only possible when their work isn't drenched in their delusion?
Take a recent example, Fallout: The Frontier. The reason there was such backlash against that wasn't because they had a pedo furry on the team (although it was sickening), it was because the entire mod was inescapably covered in uncomfortable writing which players felt weird playing. Take the teen girl America for example or the underage Mae Caufield character who talks about sex and drugs every time she can.
It's only possible to distance the creator from their work when that distance exists. Not when it doesn't.

1 is the worst in terms of gameplay

But we weren't talking about gameplay. We were talking about the overall game itself. Witcher 2 is the weakest in the franchise by any metric other than gameplay. The people that liked gameplay preferred Witcher 3 more anyway.

respectable content creators

"respectable" meaning your opinion.
New Vegas and KOTOR II are Obsidian's best work to anyone else.

so thin-skinned that you took their barbs personally

I was proving a point. You don't really think I give a shit what they say, do you?
If I had made that post, I would be banned instantly. Moderators just look for any reason to ban Bethesda fans. The ones they do keep around here for diversity are only here because they don't defend their own arguments, or if they do, it's done in a weak way letting the classic Fallout NMA users step all over them. Anyone with balls gets shut down.

no issue with people not liking 3 at all.

I don't have that issue. I have an issue with users pestering me for an explanation. I'm not your fucking scarecrow. I have an opinion, and if I choose to post with that opinion, that's my prerogative.

 

[PaxVenire]

It's fucking hilarious seeing how fast this thread went downhill

 

[CerberusGate]

It's fucking hilarious seeing how fast this thread went downhill

Truly amazing. I wonder if it realizes that I'm ignoring it now and that this thread will get vatted.



In terms of Fallout 3 quests, I guess Agatha's Song. I respect a quest that involves rescuing a Stradivarius violin.

 

[PaxVenire]

Agatha's Song is also my personal favorite

 

[Heisenberg]

Fallout 3 had the best side quests in the entire franchise. I mean, what other game allows you to nuke an entire city from the face of the map and forgo the quests you receive there?

And I know that you can continue with the Wasteland Survival Guide, but that's because Moira survives. The rest of the quests like Leo Stahl's drug habit have gone.

 

[Norzan]

Since a certain user thinks critic scores is what matters and that same user thinks a certain game is bad, let's look at the Metacritic score for Disco Elysium and Fallout 3.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/disco-elysium

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-3

Look at that, same score. And Disco Elysium has more critic reviews, so its average is actually higher. And we do know that critic reviews is what matters.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt

Let's just pick another example that is inferior to Fallout 3. What's that, two points higher? That means it's better.

 

[Heisenberg]

more critic reviews, so its average is actually higher

okay

What's that, two points higher? That means it's better.

but it has more reviewers so...

its average is actually higher

Thanks for disproving your own point.

 

[Norzan]

but it has more reviewers so...

So? That means more people like it and care enough to review it positively.

Thanks for disproving your own point.

I didn't. The average is higher because, again, more people liked it and cared to review it positively.

By your retarded logic, if a single person gave a 90 to Fallout 3, while 10 gave between 85 to 95 to Witcher 3, giving it a 90 average, that means Fallout 3 is better.

Still doesn't change the fact that Witcher 3 has a higher score.

 

[Heisenberg]

....b-b-but Norzan, have a look at the metacritic articles you mentioned of Fallout 3 and Witcher 3.

By your logic:

more people liking it and caring to review it positively = quality
and 48 people liked Fallout 3 enough to rate it positively
and 32 people liked Witcher 3 enough to rate it positively

then Fallout 3 is by your own logic, better, since it has more people who liked and care to review it positively.

Checkmate.

 

[Norzan]

I was talking about Disco Elysium, not Witcher 3. And that also means Disco Elysium is better since it has 63 positive review scores with the same score in end. So better according to your logic.

And Witcher 3 still has the higher score, which is what you consider the most important.

 

[Heisenberg]

You can't even keep up with your own point. I have to explain it to you like I'm your daddy or something.

If you whole argument is that Fallout 3 is worse than Disco Elysium because it has less contributors to it's score, then you must also hold the same logic for Witcher 3, which has less contributors to it's score than Fallout 3.

Holy shit, are you confused or what?

 

[Norzan]

Dude, i'm literally mocking the whole argument of averages and just critic reviews in general, how dense are you? I literally said this.

By your retarded logic, if a single person gave a 90 to Fallout 3, while 10 gave between 85 to 95 to Witcher 3, giving it a 90 average, that means Fallout 3 is better.

You parrot around that Fallout 3 has the highest score, but then try to move around the fact that Witcher 3 has a higher score because it has less reviewers. I'm literally making fun of your argument.

Critic reviews don't matter one bit. Even when they gave high praise to something i love, i don't care because the majority of the time, the review itself is shit.

 

[Heisenberg]

Fallout 3 has the highest score, but then try to move around the fact that Witcher 3 has a higher score because it has less reviewers

It looks like you not only have to re-read my posts, but also have to re-read your own. Do you have an autopilot for typing or something?

more people liked it and cared to review it positively.

That means:
smaller range of people to take opinions from = higher score
(due to smaller range, less opinions represented)

larger range of people to take opinions from = lower score
(due to larger range, more opinions represented)

Are you honestly THIS dense? Do you ever wonder why studies and surveys of the population study as many people as they can?
Hint: It's to get a wider sample of opinions/perspectives/etc to make a more accurate study

 

[Alphons]

what other game allows you to nuke an entire city from the face of the map and forgo the quests you receive there?

Age of Decadence, but it has actual consequences if you do it.
You can murder everyone in Klamath in FO2 and it'll have more consequences than nuking Megaton.


Anyway, best side quest in Fallout 3 is hands down You gotta shoot them in the head. Crowley is an interesting character, you can snoop about him after your conversation and he even raises your reward if you figure out his real motive and confront him about it. I love the interactions with other quests (getting Tenpenny killed by ghouls, killing Dave and getting his key by rigging the election or getting Dukov's key from Cherry if you offer to take her to RC) and the option to double cross Crowley by killing him for Tenpenny or stealing the PA (or even killing him after you selll him the keys).

 

[Heisenberg]

Age of Decadence

Who?

 

[TorontoReign]

Who?

Big shocker there.