Fuck Notre Dame. Seriously.

You're not realistic, you're a coward.

Just like all of the other's hiding in a hole hoping that the hammer doesn't come down on them, having sexual relations with their assault rifles because that makes it all ok, because it's approved by big daddy, with restrictions, for today, because if my rights are gone tomorrow ill just wallow away and die in the woods somewhere all fucked up in the head trying to stay sane.

Boomer fudd fucks are the reason that the Republicans are overrun with fucking pedophile rapist religious oligarchs and corporate lawyers.


 
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I live in a U.S. and also, a world that is REALISTIC. Is our government running the idealized way our founding fathers had planned? Probably not. But our founding fathers didn't have to deal with terrorism, the internet, and a competitive global stage. At the time the constitution was formed, we had just gained our independence. We were not the hegemon we are today so a lot of things have changed drastically.

Just like how the anti-gun crowd loves to say times have changed to support their arguments against the 2nd amendment, I would make the same argument with the U.S. of today.
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So, clearly, you should make a new edition of the Constitution that considers this new reality?
 
The Dopamine Cleric said:
You're not realistic, you're a coward.
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Actually realistic.

The U.S. today, contrary to what some here have made it out to be, is a pretty cool, totally non-Orwellian, place to live. Also, contrary to how some here have tried to paint the U.S., we do not live in a Tarantino movie. We do not get triggered and try to bring down the government over some stupid shit like light spying. We are not like the French, who have toppled their government how many times? Now were the government to forcefully disarm the populace, that is a different beast entirely. There is a reason that hasn't and will not likely happen.

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Boomer fudd fucks are the reason that the Republicans are overrun with fucking pedophile rapist religious oligarchs and corporate lawyers.
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You mad bro? Why so triggered?

Arnust said:
So, clearly, you should make a new edition of the Constitution that considers this new reality?
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Possible but highly unlikely. Again, this ties into the whole blowing shit out of proportion thing. Your average American knows that light spying is the norm, small price to pay for security. Also, creating a new constitution is no simple feat. Trying to get Americans on agreeing to change it is tough enough, actually getting people to agree on the provisions? Good fucking luck.
 
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So as long as the government let's you keep your pew pews you won't actually raise against tyrany? Kinda funny.
 
Kind of how you define tyranny? Disarming the populace? Nope. Taking us to death camps? No. People getting black bagged, another no. So far, all I heard was the NSA did some light spying and a small percentage of folks lost their shit. Hardly the 2nd coming of the fascists or the KGB.
 
Also all those invasions, concentration camps for alysum seekers, a terrible healthcare system, racial profiling, ifringement of reproductive rights, etc.

Who would've thought the secret to a tame population was to give them weapons to play and kill each other with? That's one for the dictator's pocket book.
 
No, you don't tame them that way. You tame them with money.
 
But it seems that giving them the illusion of power via weapons works the same, they feel like you empowered them so they won't revolt, you convince them the evils people are the imaginary ones who want to take their toys away, then ingrain it in their head that THAT is the first phase towards tyranny, you point their peashooters at windmills and have them convinced no matter what you do you can't be so bad if they still have their toys. The best part is that you don't even need to give them money, they will give YOU money for the toys. The perfect scam.
 
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Also all those invasions, concentration camps for alysum seekers, a terrible healthcare system, racial profiling, ifringement of reproductive rights, etc.

Who would've thought the secret to a tame population was to give them weapons to play and kill each other with? That's one for the dictator's pocket book.
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Don't forget an awful legal system where poor people don't stand a chance.
https://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312158516/increasing-court-fees-punish-the-poor
https://thinkprogress.org/poor-people-dont-stand-a-chance-in-court-7e46bd4e5719/

And some cities even use poor people to finance themselves:
https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.o...ine-how-cities-make-money-by-fining-the-poor/
Let's not have higher taxes, but use excessive fines on poor people that can't defend themselves, because they are already poor, so we can afford stuff... It's their fault for being lazy and poor, right?
 
It's like when a brand pretends to be woke. Hey they are still paying death squads to keep ownership of land in another country and they don't pay their workers a livable wage, but they had a promo with the Pride flag on their bottles for a month so they are totally in with it man!

Comodify empowerment.
 
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But it seems that giving them the illusion of power via weapons works the same, they feel like you empowered them so they won't revolt, you convince them the evils people are the imaginary ones who want to take their toys away, then ingrain it in their head that THAT is the first phase towards tyranny, you point their peashooters at windmills and have them convinced no matter what you do you can't be so bad if they still have their toys. The best part is that you don't even need to give them money, they will give YOU money for the toys. The perfect scam.
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I think everything would be the same if that wasn't the case so what's your point?
 
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invasions, concentration camps for alysum seekers, a terrible healthcare system, racial profiling, ifringement of reproductive rights
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Are we getting dramatic much? You seriously comparing facilities, which are over burdened by the endless waves of asylum seekrs, to places like Mathausen?

Invasions? What the fuck?

So not being like a euro nanny state means the U.S. is like N. Korea.

Jesus Christ your more dramatic than a teenager.

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But it seems that giving them the illusion of power via weapons works the same, they feel like you empowered them so they won't revolt, you convince them the evils people are the imaginary ones who want to take their toys away, then ingrain it in their head that THAT is the first phase towards tyranny, you point their peashooters at windmills and have them convinced no matter what you do you can't be so bad if they still have their toys. The best part is that you don't even need to give them money, they will give YOU money for the toys. The perfect scam.
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Unlike the thought process of an 'edgy' teenage anarchist who thinks they know it all, real life doesn't work that way. People only revolt when they prefer total fucking anarchy to the current system. Again, unlike your average 'edgy' teens thought process, revolution is a very REAL thing and only reserved for the most dire of circumstances. People don't encourage total chaos and the breaking and reshaping of all government because some asylum seekers didn't get amazing fucking facilities that would only encourage even more seekers, which would require even more and better facilities.
 
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