Hamas leader pwned

[victor]

I just read on CNN that the Israelis killed Hamas "spiritual leader" Sheikh Ahmed Yassin by performing an airstrike on his car (m-m-m-m-m-monster kill!). A bit risky to do that, and I don't think THIS:

As Palestinian militant groups vowed revenge, Israeli officials said Yassin was a "terrorist" who deserved death.

is gonna make things better.

Way to end the war, ya nutcases...

Thoughts?

 

[MrMarcus]

Watch for Hamas activity to pick up in the coming weeks in retribution.

 

[Jebus]

What does it matter?


This has been going on for about eighty years now, and it will continue another 800.

 

[welsh]

Israeli's tried to knock him off before. He was a military target.

Thing is, Hamas is more than just a terrorist organization, but a social and political organization with strong grassroots ties.

Yes, I would guess that terrorism is going to ratchet up over the next few weeks at least.

The danger here is that the Israeli's create a real martyr.

I am not sure if Europe's response on this is so wise. They are condemning the attack (I think to show sympathy with the Palestinians) but does that indicate that they wouldn't hit a terrorist leader if they could?

 

[alec]

Well, I for one think it's a bloody good thing! This wheelchair moron with the voice of a castrated turkey had it coming anyway. Good riddance. Hip-hip-hooray for Israel!

 

[Roshambo]

I just read on CNN that the Israelis killed Hamas "spiritual leader" Sheikh Ahmed Yassin by performing an airstrike on his car (m-m-m-m-m-monster kill!).

Dude! Ow! Fuck!

I approve! Of course I also liked the idea of that laser from Real Genuis.

"You have been banned. Please wait for orbital termination sequence."

 

[Briosafreak]

How is that thing americans sometimes say "the shit is going to hit the fan"?
This is the most appropriate thing to say now, this is a dead serious issue and we`re going to see a crescendo on the intensity and methods of terrorist violence to a point that will beat the tension on the 70`s. By the way Hamas now says americans are targets too, not a pleasant thing from an organization that has most of its funds coming from so call "charities" in the US, where they have a lot of simpathysers.

 

[victor]

I think it's like pissing off an unchained mad dog or something. I don't think terrorism contra terrorism is the way to do this, so in some ways, the EU might be right about what they said. I'm seriously starting to doubt the Israelis want peace.

 

[Sander]

This depends. If the leader was simply a spiritual leader, then it was simply stupid of the Israelis to do such a thing. If the leader was a sort of binding factor for Hamas, or coordinated a lot of things, then it may have been the smart thing for them to do.
Whatever the case, this will not help the Israelis to win the Palestinians for them...

Bah, I'm turning realist. Hrmph. Odd...

 

[Brother None]

I am not sure if Europe's response on this is so wise. They are condemning the attack (I think to show sympathy with the Palestinians) but does that indicate that they wouldn't hit a terrorist leader if they could?

No.

European countries would probably hit terrorist leaders like that if in the same situation, but the fact is it's not, and from where it actually is, it can lazily point at Israel and say "they're the bad guys" (scarface, anyone?)

And strictly speaking they're right. The legitimateness of just bombing someone in his car aside, since we are in an exceptional situation here, it isn't exactly wise.

I dropped the belief that the Israeli government or the Palestinian terrorists want "peace" a long time ago. They just want blood. I can remember a debate about the building of the Israeli wall between two dumb-shit extremist Palestinians (well, a Palestinian + Greta Duisenberg. I hate that woman) and two dumb-shit extermist Israelis. Both dumb-shit sides made no sense, and absolutely refused to perment a chance that they were wrong

Sitting right in the middle was some famous Jewish Dutch person, and at a point he asked the Israelis "You want peace, right?" "Yes" "Then why are you doing this? This isn't going to promote peace. Don't blab on about terrorist attacks and legitimacy; this isn't going to promote a peaceful relationship between the Palestinian State and Israel" and the Israelis could think of no answer to give

Bunch of blood-thirsty maniacs, all of them

 

[Sander]

(well, a Palestinian + Greta Duisenberg. I hate that woman)

I love that column Luuk Koelman made about her that was banned. Bwaha.

http://www.verbaljam.nl/koelman.html

There it is.

Sitting right in the middle was some famous Jewish Dutch person

Ehmm....who?

And strictly speaking they're right. The legitimateness of just bombing someone in his car aside, since we are in an exceptional situation here, it isn't exactly wise.

I dropped the belief that the Israeli government or the Palestinian terrorists want "peace" a long time ago. They just want blood. I can remember a debate about the building of the Israeli wall between two dumb-shit extremist Palestinians (well, a Palestinian + Greta Duisenberg. I hate that woman) and two dumb-shit extermist Israelis. Both dumb-shit sides made no sense, and absolutely refused to perment a chance that they were wrong

YOu know, stuff like this is giving me a rather grim outlook on future society. With a recent report that Al Qaeda is supposedly in possession of nuclear weapons, all of the terrorist attacks around the world, the fact that Bush can just invade a country and not have to deal with anything(international laws, for instance), the mindless slaughter of Palestinians and Israelis - it's stupid, it's mind-boggling and it may lead us all to destruction.
Even though it is my firm belief that humanity will never be able to wipe itself out, it can certainly do a lot of goddamn damage.
Damn it! This is supposed to be a "civilised" world. What part of civilised do I not understand, then?

 

[victor]

YOu know, stuff like this is giving me a rather grim outlook on future society. With a recent report that Al Qaeda is supposedly in possession of nuclear weapons, all of the terrorist attacks around the world, the fact that Bush can just invade a country and not have to deal with anything(international laws, for instance), the mindless slaughter of Palestinians and Israelis - it's stupid, it's mind-boggling and it may lead us all to destruction.
Even though it is my firm belief that humanity will never be able to wipe itself out, it can certainly do a lot of goddamn damage.
Damn it! This is supposed to be a "civilised" world. What part of civilised do I not understand, then?

Welcome to my world.

 

[Brother None]

I love that column Luuk Koelman made about her that was banned. Bwaha.

http://www.verbaljam.nl/koelman.html

Ehehehe, funny

Ehmm....who?

Harry de Winter.

I think.

 

[Jebus]

And strictly speaking they're right. The legitimateness of just bombing someone in his car aside,

Oh, but he wasn't bombed in his car.

He was bombed while rolling his wheelchair.


Leaving church.


By a helicopter.


With THREE missiles.


Doesn't anyone else see what is wrong with this? How the hell anyone can still symphatise with the Zionist cause of those goddamn Israelies is beyond me.

(and before anyone starts with the cliché 'Ah dOOd you're anti-semetic'! cliché: I'm half Jewish.)

 

[alec]

He was bombed while rolling his wheelchair. Leaving church. By a helicopter. With THREE missiles.

I'm sorry, but I find that idea highly entertaining. Cartoonists will be so happy today.

Doesn't anyone else see what is wrong with this?

I'm sure a whole lot of people do, but I don't.

How the hell anyone can still symphatise with the Zionist cause of those goddamn Israelies is beyond me.

Try: so many terrorist attacks can turn a good man bad. I totally understand this extreme measure. Hamas isn't exactly a scouts movement, is it?

 

[Jebus]

terrorist

I don't consider them terrorists. I consider them freedom fighters.

 

[Paladin Solo]

How is that thing americans sometimes say "the shit is going to hit the fan"?

Don't forget "shit always rolls downhill."

 

[alec]

I don't consider them terrorists. I consider them freedom fighters.

I can't see how blowing up innocent civilians has anything to do with fighting for freedom. I can't see how any rightful Gd would ever approve of that, simply because there is no justification in this whatsoever. It's simply wrong. These so-called freedom fighters are cold blooded murderers. If they catch a bullet one day (or a rocket, for that matter, or a couple of rockets), they get what they deserve. Wheelchair or no wheelchair.

 

[Wooz]

Argh. This last post made me so angry I had to start mine about three times already.

This whole "hamas leader pwned" thing is about as stupid as if I'd start a thread about how cool it is that a bus blew up with Israeli civilians. It really makes me angry. Can't you fucking get that it's precisely this kind of stuff that brings on more violence from *both* sides?

By the way, the "get what they deserve" argument is pretty childish, sorry Blade. It's the same one the Palestinian extremists use when they blow up innocents. It's the same one Israeli officials employ when a couple of helicopters blow up a few buildings in a "precision strike". Forget "freedom fighters". Both sides are gory to the armpits.

Makes me think of the stadion fights we get here at home. Damn, it makes me fucking sick. Hate radiating from everybody, a hate apotheosis. Young policemen, young hooligans. Cretins against Cretins.

You can't fight fire with fire.
Either the Israelis and Palestinans find a solution that fits them both, which isn't going to happen soon, or they will exterminate themselves mutually.

 

[Jebus]

So what Israël is doing is better? The foundations of the state of Israël was built in the blood of innocent Palestinians. At the very start, they slaughtered entire villages.

And then they proceeded to 'expand' Israël. They invaded the neighbouring Palestinian land, and greatly exceeded the territorial boundaries agreed with the UN.

And since then, they have done nothing but opress and humiliate the Palistinian people. Decade, after decade, after decade, after decade, ...

And nowadays, the Palestinian people have been driven SO far, that they actually strap bombs around their own body and blow themselves up. How far must you push a man before he does that?
And the Israelites just keep on bombing from the safety of their helicopters, and keep on demolishing innocent people's houses with their bulldozers...

Palestinian people aren't terrorists. Because they fight for a CAUSE. They fight for freedom. For the respect of their basic human rights. Against opression and cruelty. Terrorist are noting but twisted people who kill innocents out of sheer hatred.

Hell, if Arafat would've been sexy, he might've been the next Che Guevara...