Hands on look at new skyrim "remaster"

CT Phipps said:
But yes, Skyrim is my second favorite video game of all time.
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I will admit I was overly negative of Skyrim when it was released. Now that I view it as a fantasy Westworld-esque video game and not a deep, enthralling RPG experience I can see why it has the appeal.

CT Phipps said:
I liked Fallout 4 better than most games. I just thought it was a very flawed game.
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It's gotten to the point where I could probably give reasons as to why Call of Duty Ghosts is better than Fallout 4 (unironically). It was so broken, technically and in design that it baffles me as to how an intelligent person such as yourself can enjoy it for what it is. Oh well, opinions I guess.
 
SarcasticGoodGuy said:
I will admit I was overly negative of Skyrim when it was released. Now that I view it as a fantasy Westworld-esque video game and not a deep, enthralling RPG experience I can see why it has the appeal.
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I saw it as an extremely well-written D&D campaign with five or six campaigns.

It's gotten to the point where I could probably give reasons as to why Call of Duty Ghosts is better than Fallout 4 (unironically). It was so broken, technically and in design that it baffles me as to how an intelligent person such as yourself can enjoy it for what it is. Oh well, opinions I guess.
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For me, I didn't necessarily dislike the story of Mighty Whyte Buck RogersTM the Male Dude Frozen for centuries.



Because if you try and measure it by player freedom standards, exploration, storytelling. or even voice acting, no it's not particularly good. However, after I reached Diamond City, I adjusted my expectations and didn't attempt to judge F4 by the standards by the game I wanted it to be. I instead judged it by the standards of the game it was, which was to say a very enjoyable shooter and explorer. Even so, yes, I was frustrated many times by the obvious C&P of dialogue as well as lack of options.

Yet, I spent more time in Fallout than I would spend on most games.
 
Because a few people mentioned it already ... I don't think anyone of us here complained about what ever if Skyrim is a good or fun game. Infact, a lot of people here played Skyrim, and spend a lot of hours with the game. Skyrim can be quite entertaining, particularly once you get the right mods that suit your taste.
The point is, at least from what I can say, the remastered edition simply feels like a quick cash grab. This wouldn't be made better by the fact, if Skyrim was as good or even better game than the Witcher 3. The new edition is literaly the same game, just with a few visual tweaks here and there. I wouldn't be surprised if the remastered edition has exactly the same kind of bugs like Skyrim. Infact, I would totally laugh about that part.
Like someone else already said, Skyrim was the least of the Bethesda games that required a 'remastered' edition but it was the easiest of all the games to do one. Think about it like those updated special edition from the old Star Wars movies, that no one asked for, but gave Lucas a new reason to milk his most loyal fans.
 
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Coen ‏@Fikziejon_079 2h2 hours ago
@DCDeacon I'm a little confused about the ps4 version of Skyrim remastered and it's mods. Armor, weapon and quest mods are a no-no, right?:(
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@Fikziejon_079 you can mod any of those things provided you aren't trying to add a new texture to them. Or sound effect.
8:56 AM - 24 Oct 2016

Or models, or cubemaps, or better normals, or new animations, or nifskope mashups of vanilla content, or npc faces, or quests that involve quest names with stages like in all quest mods and the base game, or quest markers, or quest rewards via script.

PS4 sword mod = Pick a vanilla sword model, change the damage it does or the on effect when hitting or vanilla magic effect.
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PC sword mod = Anything, literally anything. I can use the dwemer animunculi as a sword, or make a glowing fire sword of death that when equipped kills everyone with less then 50 HP instantly, while making me able to fly to another universe with a black sun.

PS4 Armor mod = Pick a vanilla armor model, change the armor rating it has or the on effect when hit or vanilla magic effect.
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PC Armor mod = Anything from a new model that looks like (insert super hero) to bouncing boobs and butt on a realistic anatomically correct body, to a person that is a suit that has to be convinced they need you to wear them, which in turn grants you the power of Lorkhan, makes you jump higher, trippy visuals and you glow in the dark scaring wolves away.

PS4 Quest mod = Read a piece of paper that gives you directions to something, no quest in your journal, no map marker, no fancy effects, grey face on every new NPC. text dialogue for new NPCs.
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PC Quest mod = Literally anything, including an entirely different game.
 
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Difference is with D&D the game (at least when I played) required thinking and investing in the right areas. I did a beast hunting (it's been a while I've forgotten the proper name) campaign where choosing one wrong option meant getting annihilated by a werewolf. In Skyrim you're an unstoppable god, and that's the point about it being Westworld-esque, you can do whatever you want with no consequence. In a few days everything is back to normal and no one remembers. There are more similarities between the two than you might think.

With Fallout 4 I spent quite a bit of time in it too. Gathering footage, completing every quest so I could hold my head up high and say "there are no good quests in this game and those that come close are hampered by missed opportunities".
 
I think Skyrim was a great deep game despite what many people here say. It was full of good quests, interesting minor factions (thieves guild, dark brotherhood had a very great questline.) and of course the civil war, This is all sidequests by the way.

It had great dialogue options which you could be whatever character you wanted, a non descriptive opening I don't see what the issues are. And as far as the Remaster is concerned, if you own it on PC already it's free so you can't really complain for an objectively better version of the vanilla game for free, and on console it's a way nicer looking version.
 
Greentoast11 said:
it's a way nicer looking version.
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It still looks like dogshit and has little to no new added effects.

Greentoast11 said:
I think Skyrim was a great deep game despite what many people here say. It was full of good quests, interesting minor factions (thieves guild, dark brotherhood had a very great questline.) and of course the civil war, This is all sidequests by the way.
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Emil? Is that you?

Greentoast11 said:
It had great dialogue options which you could be whatever character you wanted, a non descriptive opening
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The thing I praise Skyrim for is rp capability. Every character can be how you want them to be, not how the devs want you to be- with the exception of becoming an indestructible god on even the highest "difficulty".

My problem stems from the unresponsive world, simple/modular quests, repetitive dungeons, bland characters (except for a few) etc.
 
Greentoast11 said:
I think Skyrim was a great deep game despite what many people here say. It was full of good quests, interesting minor factions (thieves guild, dark brotherhood had a very great questline.) and of course the civil war, This is all sidequests by the way.

It had great dialogue options which you could be whatever character you wanted, a non descriptive opening I don't see what the issues are. And as far as the Remaster is concerned, if you own it on PC already it's free so you can't really complain for an objectively better version of the vanilla game for free, and on console it's a way nicer looking version.
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Fuck you. Fuck you so much. Skyrim is a shit game unmodded. The quests are passable with the right splash of mods. Unlike Fallout NV, Skyrim requires mods to be fun. I love Skyrim, when I've modded the fuck out of it and it doesn't feel like Skyrim. But you're probably a new fan to Elderscrolls, that would be the only real reason you would be acting like it's a good game.

Also fuck you for saying "But it's free!" I will shit on your floor for free, but that isn't something you want. I'm not going to say to you, you should be happy I shit on your floor, it costs you nothing?!?!?

Don't be an idiot or get the fuck out.

Skyrim CashGrabEdition is for console idiots that think that PCs are more expensive then buying a game twice. GTFO.
 
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Coen ‏@Fikziejon_079 2h2 hours ago
@DCDeacon I'm a little confused about the ps4 version of Skyrim remastered and it's mods. Armor, weapon and quest mods are a no-no, right?:(
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@Fikziejon_079 you can mod any of those things provided you aren't trying to add a new texture to them. Or sound effect.
8:56 AM - 24 Oct 2016

Or models, or cubemaps, or better normals, or new animations, or nifskope mashups of vanilla content, or npc faces, or quests that involve quest names with stages like in all quest mods and the base game, or quest markers, or quest rewards via script.

PS4 sword mod = Pick a vanilla sword model, change the damage it does or the on effect when hitting or vanilla magic effect.
vs
PC sword mod = Anything, literally anything. I can use the dwemer animunculi as a sword, or make a glowing fire sword of death that when equipped kills everyone with less then 50 HP instantly, while making me able to fly to another universe with a black sun.

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Well, they've succeeded at dumbing down their games to a ridiculous level, so why stop there and neglect to dumb down the mods as well?
 
DirtyOldShoe said:
Fuck you. Fuck you so much. Skyrim is a shit game unmodded.
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CT Phipps said:
I know that mine weren't because I play console. Honestly, I can't think of anything which I'd like as a mod for Skyrim save a Serana romance.
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What is the allure of romancing Serana? I've had the option to for years but never seemed interested, there are so many other well developed characters in mods.

SarcasticGoodGuy said:
I no joke have a friend that spent ~1000 hours on an unmodded Skyrim.
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I can look past that mistake if it's on console, they have a shit selection of games.
 
DirtyOldShoe said:
console idiots that think that PCs are more expensive
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While we're on this topic, I would like to take this opportunity to express why I dislike the myth that consoles are cheaper.

If you buy the newest console, there is no guarantee that you'll be able to play older games. Yes there is a lot of attempts to make games backwards compatible, but nothing is ever guaranteed.

Hell, PS3 games aren't even compatible with PS4 games.

Realistically speaking, console gamers either have to limit themselves to games from one specific time period which would be utterly absurd, or buy so many consoles that a top-end gaming PC starts to look cheap.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Wait? Skyrim had dialog options?
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Compared to Fallout 4, where your "dialog" choices were Yes -> No-> Sarcastic -> Hate Newspapers, and the shooting started 90% of the time as soon as you exited dialog no matter which option you chose, I'd say yes.

Granted, that's setting the bar on the ground ...
 
CT Phipps said:
I saw it as an extremely well-written D&D campaign with five or six campaigns.
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Coen ‏@Fikziejon_079 2h2 hours ago
@DCDeacon I'm a little confused about the ps4 version of Skyrim remastered and it's mods. Armor, weapon and quest mods are a no-no, right?:(
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Pete Hines Verified account ‏@DCDeacon
@Fikziejon_079 you can mod any of those things provided you aren't trying to add a new texture to them. Or sound effect.
8:56 AM - 24 Oct 2016
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Greentoast11 said:
I think Skyrim was a great deep game despite what many people here say. It was full of good quests, interesting minor factions (thieves guild, dark brotherhood had a very great questline.) and of course the civil war, This is all sidequests by the way.

It had great dialogue options which you could be whatever character you wanted, a non descriptive opening I don't see what the issues are. And as far as the Remaster is concerned, if you own it on PC already it's free so you can't really complain for an objectively better version of the vanilla game for free, and on console it's a way nicer looking version.
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JO'Geran said:
While we're on this topic, I would like to take this opportunity to express why I dislike the myth that consoles are cheaper.

If you buy the newest console, there is no guarantee that you'll be able to play older games. Yes there is a lot of attempts to make games backwards compatible, but nothing is ever guaranteed.

Hell, PS3 games aren't even compatible with PS4 games.

Realistically speaking, console gamers either have to limit themselves to games from one specific time period which would be utterly absurd, or buy so many consoles that a top-end gaming PC starts to look cheap.
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With all those new versions of the consoles coming out they're essentially "upgrading" in the same way that us PC users do when it comes to changing out existing components.
 
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