Historical politicians thread

Point was you put a whole bunch of criminals in your favourite historical politician list, you may as well of put Pol Pot and Kim Il Sung why you were at it.
Criminals? They didn't break the law (they were the law) and I admire them for certain traits. Pol Pot and Kim Il Sung have nothing going for them.
 
Criminals? They didn't break the law (they were the law) and I admire them for certain traits. Pol Pot and Kim Il Sung have nothing going for them.
Aw c'mon, Pol Pot was cool. He racked up an impressive bodycount in those years. And wearing glasses could get you executed? Now that's impressive levels of madness.
Although, when talking about impressive madness, nobody beats the Eternal President and his sons. Gotta love those psychotic goofballs.
 
Aw c'mon, Pol Pot was cool. He racked up an impressive bodycount in those years. And wearing glasses could get you executed? Now that's impressive levels of madness.
Although, when talking about impressive madness, nobody beats the Eternal President and his sons. Gotta love those psychotic goofballs.
Nah, insanity never reached me. It's so over done you know?
 
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Think this guy is more OP's speed
 
Criminals? They didn't break the law (they were the law) and I admire them for certain traits. Pol Pot and Kim Il Sung have nothing going for them.
Vladimir Lenin and Josef Stalin both killed millions in the gulags.
Fidel Castro led a dirty war against his own people in an attempt to remove dissidents.
Mao Zedong authorised the murder of millions during the cultural revolution.
I definitely wouldn't put them on my list of favourite historical politicians, if I were making a list of my favourite communist philosophers then sure, but as politicians they were all repressive douche nozzles.
 
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*shrugs* No one ever denied that. But they make for some awesome memes at least. I would guess, that no one here REALLY likes Stalin, Mao or Hitler - except for Hitlerlover Confirmed, but he's special. Those are some fucked up Mofos, no doubt. But it's history by now.
 
no one here REALLY likes Stalin, Mao or Hitler
Everyone hates Hitler and Stalin but I see some genuine love for Mao and Lenin occasionally, especially Lenin, people really like to forget about his crimes against humanity.
Can we finally fucking end this stupid childish feud that you, Illuminati Confirmed and others have. Learn to accept other people's opinions and move on.
Fuck that, Illuminati doesn't believe the holocaust occurred and he firmly believes that other races are naturally inferior to whites. It's fine to live with others political or religious beliefs but don't let other people get away with being absolute dickheads.
 
believe the holocaust occurred and he firmly believes that other races are naturally inferior to whites
Really?
Thats fine then. Maybe we should make a thread called "argue with Illuminati" where people can let off steam at him, it would make a good laugh.
 
It's fine to live with others political or religious beliefs but don't let other people get away with being absolute dickheads.
Half of the forum told him already to fuck off anyway and his topics get quite often vated by Hass. But, since no admin has banned him so far ... to be fair if they would be more active, he would be already gone. So there is that.
 
to be fair if they would be more active, he would be already gone.
Well thats a reason to promote more people to admins if we ever need one.
Fuck that, Illuminati doesn't believe the holocaust occurred and he firmly believes that other races are naturally inferior to whites.
You forgot the eugenics and social darwinism
 
while we're at it i'm suprised that nobody mentioned Roman Emperor Caligula yet..
Now this guy had fun in ruling and literally fucking people over :D Although he ended poorly, I assume that if you put comunists nazis and other twisted freaks of nature here he deserves the place in this list as well :p
 
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*shrugs* No one ever denied that. But they make for some awesome memes at least. I would guess, that no one here REALLY likes Stalin, Mao or Hitler - except for Hitlerlover Confirmed, but he's special. Those are some fucked up Mofos, no doubt. But it's history by now.
Not thinking someone is as much of a genocidal maniac as his enemies would have you believe is not the same as liking.
 
Oh, another one who is in favour of genocides and world wars? Humor me!

You know, actually I don't even mind so much if someone is a fascist, or if they see it as a viable system - well if it doesn't happen that you're one of the people they don't like, dictatorships usually suck, unless you're the dictator. We could and have even talked about topics which are seen as questionable or harmfull, albeit with a narrative, like what ever if the Legion, slavery or even outright fascism is something that works - given the right circumstances, like a wasteland as we have seen it in Fallout.

However, dennying historical facts, and downplaying genocides, well that is an entirely different story. We simply have not the power, nor the patience to get trough your tinfoil hats. And that is what we are talking about here. Not what ever if someone has a different opinion or not, if you like communism, fascism or sadomasochism. But dennying facts. Clear and simple.

"I disagree with someone, therefore they should be banned" ?
Well if the forum rules say, no racist bullshit ... and you post racist bullshit ...or if denying the hollocaust is forbiden, and you still do it. Yeup, you're right. That would be totally unfair.
Do you also complain, that someone is violating your right for free spech, when you get thrown out for yelling in a mall, despite the fact that a shield on the entrace said, no yelling?
 
Vladimir Lenin and Josef Stalin both killed millions in the gulags.
Fidel Castro led a dirty war against his own people in an attempt to remove dissidents.
Mao Zedong authorised the murder of millions during the cultural revolution.
I definitely wouldn't put them on my list of favourite historical politicians, if I were making a list of my favourite communist philosophers then sure, but as politicians they were all repressive douche nozzles.
So? They didn't break the law, they made the law. And again, I don't admire everything they did, but there are some aspects of their personality or deeds that I find admirable and something that can be respected.

Hitler wasn't fascist, he was a national socialist. Aka, fascism but a lot worse.
 
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