Historical politicians thread

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Two of the few great American politicians that I really admire are Huey Long, senator and governor of Louisiana who created various large-scale works projects that increased the infrastructure of the state drastically.

The other would be John F. Kennedy. I admire him mostly for his stance against the Federal Reserve.

In regards to European politicians, my favorite would be Sir Oswald Mosley, founder of the BUF and the Union Movement in the UK.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
Great, another fascist, just what this forum needs.
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Everyone has different political opinions. I find that as long as people are willing to view their opponent's ideals as potentially legitimate viewpoints, then both parties can learn from the other. One may not always have to think of a debate as winning or losing. If a debate is not for points or scores in an academic setting, it is best viewed simply as a conversation. If two parties are arguing about a topic, it is best not to see the discussion as something to win or lose. Because by doing that, you do not listen or consider what your opponent is trying to say.

In the end, a debate is boiled down to an exchange of ideals and opinions which are each considered and contrasted with rival ones, so that when the argument is finished, even if it is not settled, both sides have something new they can consider.
 
Everyone has different political opinions. I find that as long as people are willing to view their opponent's ideals as potentially legitimate viewpoints, then both parties can learn from the other. One may not always have to think of a debate as winning or losing. If a debate is not for points or scores in an academic setting, it is best viewed simply as a conversation. If two parties are arguing about a topic, it is best not to see the discussion as something to win or lose. Because by doing that, you do not listen or consider what your opponent is trying to say.

In the end, a debate is boiled down to an exchange of ideals and opinions which are each considered and contrasted with rival ones, so that when the argument is finished, even if it is not settled, both sides have something new they can consider.
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Thats great but we end up with Holocaust denial and nobody wants that, apart from the deniers. Go look in the Vats for an example of where it went wrong, the German WW2 Vets thread, that was a real festival of bullshit.
 
If I had to name some more older UK politicians I would say:
  • Pitt the Younger, for the Act of Union
  • William Wilberforce for leading the Anti Slave trade movement
  • William Gladstone, for the Representation of the People Act
  • Robert Walpole, for the Gaming Act 1738
  • Disraeli for Public Health Act 1875
  • Robert Peel, for the Factory Act 1844
 
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I forgot Gandhi was a politician, Martin Luther King and WEB Du Bois were as well, sort of.
 
Vladimir Lenin, Vyacheslav Molotov, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Nikolai Bukharin, Mao Zedong and Ho Chi Min.

Edit: Whoops! Forgot Nikita Khrushchev, Raul Castro, Lavrentiy Beria and Georgi Zhukov (eh stretching here, but generals had a lot of political power in the USSR).
 
Izak said:
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Franciso Franco, Engelbert Dollfuss and Ante Pavelić.
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Corneliu Codreanu, for the dubious achievement of being such a raving antisemite that the Nazis had to tell him and his Iron Guard to tone it down a notch.

Btw., I like how the Wikipedia article on the Iron Guard has an extra paragraph on "Iron Guard and Gender" about how super sexist they were. Oh Wikipedia, never change.
 
Point was you put a whole bunch of criminals in your favourite historical politician list, you may as well of put Pol Pot and Kim Il Sung why you were at it.
 
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