How excited are you for Fallout 4?

It's a never ending source of frustration. Especially when you realise that most gamers are like that.
 
Fallout 4 is probably my least anticipated game of the next decade, shortly followed by anything else developed by Bethesda.
 
Akratus said:
It's a never ending source of frustration. Especially when you realise that most gamers are like that.
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It's the double-edged sword of wanting your hobby to be more broadly accepted. I know growing up as a gamer- back when it was still cause to get beaten up at school for not being into basketball or football -that I hoped being a gamer would be more commonplace and less niche. And now it is, at the cost of everything that made it great. The worst part is that's all well and good with the Producers; they WANT "broader audience", and it doesn't matter what you do to the games to get them. Water down the genre until every game is some dirty brownish-grey action/shooter? Good! Remove difficulty until it becomes impossible to lose? Good! Sadly, watered down games that follow this model are quick fixes of catharsis, so those brain-dead "gamer" types can't get enough of it, and since they fork over their hard-earned but thoughtlessly discarded cash to pick them up, the trend will just continue.

Best we can do is just enjoy the few great gems that come out from time to time which cater to how games use to be, like Soldner-X, Demon's Souls, and so on... =|
 
It's some sort of very mixed horror-filled excitement. Kinda like looking at a trainwreck, it's painful and sad yet it can be very interesting and fascinating.

Like others have said, if it was developed by Obsidian it would probably be my second most anticipated game at the moment (Wasteland 2 being on top of the list). But with Bethesda, I can't really be very excited. I do enjoy their games in small doses, but after a while they end up really sucking. And a simple comparison between NV and FO3 and Skyrim shows why. No depth, piss-poor writing and very monotone gameplay. It's almost unbelievable what Obsidian managed to do with the exact same engine and gameplay model. NV is a fantastic game. Bethesda can't do fantastic. Despite all their faults, they do know how to make interesting scenery and fun locations to explore. So that alone will likely make me want to play FO4 when it's out. But it speaks quite a lot that I haven't finished a single Bethesda game, yet I can't stop playing NV.
 
I feel the story has already been told. There is nothing more they can really do that would interest me.
 
For me it will be very interesting to see Beth handle this next game, if anything it will be an interesting story. (not the ingame story obv.)
 
My complete lack of excitement for FO4 prevented me from posting earlier in this thread. But I am bored and woo1108 asked an interesting question.

It's just retard for "this was quite a good (thing) and good (things) are... good". Often used by people that use "Awesome" a lot and play or create "next generation" games, always take things "a step further" and use hyperbole at every occasion.

Note that professional retards spell it like EPIC FOR TEH WIN! using multiple exclamation marks. If approached by someone using this phrase, keep calm and talk in a low, monotonous voice about boring things until they go away. They are often highly strung, excited and easy to anger so don't provoke them or you will be KOS in no time and you might get ganked on the spot.
 
I'm excited right now because it's FO4 but with no details it's hard to really know either way. I really hope they don't dumb down the skills like they did with skyrim.
 
I think they've done most of the "dumbing down" that the SPECIAL skill assortment will take, and honestly, I think the system's the better for it. Rolling together the medical skills, doing something about Traps and Throwing, eliminating the trivial Gambling skill... I honestly wish they'd go further and roll Small- and Big Guns together like New Vegas did. More to the point, I know it's expecting a bit much, but what I'd really like is for them to do everything like New Vegas did, skill-wise. (Not sure I see them holding on to Survival, but there's not much reason not to. And Big Guns is still too limited to justify its own category.)

The only other things I can really conceive of that they'd lump together would be Speech and Barter or Melee and Unarmed, which, though they'd be controversial moves and ones that I wouldn't make myself, I think could be argued for rather convincingly.
 
But how about Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3?

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Of course, most of the hardcore fans are looking forward to Wasteland 2 and more excited about it.
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How would most hardcore FALLOUT FANS look forward to a different game series? I personally love ALL the Fallout games. Does that make me not hardcore?
 
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No need to pick a bone over word usage. Nothing was said in the post you're quoting to support the umbrage you're skipping ahead to. And to answer your question with a question, why would a hardcore fan of the Fallout series not look forward to a sequel to the game Fallout was spiritually grounded in, which is being developed by many of Fallout's original architects, and whose gameplay exhibits elements reminiscent of old-school Fallout which are vanishingly rare in modern gaming? None of that is a judgement on Bethsoft. It is possible to like more than one type of game.
 
Not much excited about any games. I think it is better to wait a few years to get the games, with low price, all patches and add-on included, a lot of mods and walkthrought all over the internet.

So i will avoid to read as much things as possible about the Beta or the release of Wasteland 2, as i will wait the Goty or any pack with all Add-on included to buy it. This would also prevent me to suffer from half-finished dlc like The Pitt or Anchorage.

Like almost everyone else, i am more interested on Wasteland 2, Mutant Rising or the Van Buren Mod.

I think i will have some hope about the Bethesda Fallout MMO. It would, in my opinion, fit more with them, as open-world and lot of hostile/underdevellopped factions would fit more in that kind of game, not mentionning how the players themselves could improve the roleplay themselves. (if we lucky and don't get an awfull brainless community)

About Fo4, i don't care much about the gameplay or the story, but i very hope that they won't deal with west coast or any factions/places/creatures/storylines of other games mades by other develloppers (Interplay, Black Isles, Obsidian, Micro Forte, 14 degrees east...) and create anything from scratch. I would even want them to avoid any mention to Fallout 3. As a standalone, it would be bad or good but it wouldn't destroy the universe created by other fallouts. Otherwise, a kickstarter would be needed to buy the Fallout Franchise from them, to avoid any further losses.

The worst case scenario would be an endless battlezone between NCR, Legion and Feral Super-mutants, with the BOS as the only faction who can solve the issue, the only faction you can talk with, and a FEVed Lanius as big boss.

An other issue i have with the two last fallout is the open world. It isn't suited with fallout universe, reduce the scale of the storyline (no more room for multiple large cities like Vault City, New Reno, Broken Hills), add many places that serve no purpose at all (except maybe fighting critters, like it was the point of the game), and force show everything, even some that would be repetitive, to big for the engine or that the designer would have hard time to depict correctly. Let's go back to a proper worldmap, please.

As said before the open world would be better suited for the Fallout MMO, as you could expect anything during your travels. Also, you would have space to travel without encountering another player on every trip.
 
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I'm with you on some of your points naossano mmo would be they way for them to go but I still like the open worlds as it allows for more rp as opposed to being forced through bad story lines. If it's true that FO4 is in new england I'd be happy and hope they stick to the east so they can't screw up established lore any more in the west.

I'm also still in between on this game as it's seems every edition of games beth does looses something every time they "advance" yea you get shiny graphics and voice actors but look at what was lost in the small jump from games like Morrowind to Skyrim. If they dropped the voice actors and brought the graphics down some and added loading for houses and the like they could have added a ton of more content. I just hope the scales between content and graphics etc. starts to balance out more as gaming systems advance.
 
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Fallout 4 could just be Van Buren fixed up and I'd still buy it, super special edition. Hell, I'd still buy it if it was Fallout 3 with nicer graphics. Not that I don't want a new Fallout, which I do more than either of those things by a mile, but seriously, Bethesda's fans, myself included buy their stuff no matter what. You know it's true.
 
Now if Fallout 4 could be something similar to Metro: 2033 or Metro: Last Light in the story telling department, while going with the play style of Fallout 3: Van Buren then I'd be highly excited for the product, but more than likely it'll just be another rehash of Bethesda's: Fallout 3 with better graphics and another poor story.
 
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Fallout 4 could just be Van Buren fixed up and I'd still buy it, super special edition. Hell, I'd still buy it if it was Fallout 3 with nicer graphics. Not that I don't want a new Fallout, which I do more than either of those things by a mile, but seriously, Bethesda's fans, myself included buy their stuff no matter what. You know it's true.
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Wow, and we got accused prior to Fallout 3's release that all we would be happy with was a Fallout 1 or 2 released again but with better graphics.

You know, it is exactly this reason why a developer/publisher like Bethesda would not improve the quality of its products, the fact that you would buy it despite that you know that it does not qualify for the payment you put down for it.
 
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