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Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by The Dopamine Cleric, Feb 24, 2008.
Go play Morrowind or Daggerfall instead. Much better RPG's.
Morrowind is boring and terrible, just play Daggerfall, which consequently, is also a mess.
Well, I reinstalled Oblivion last night, and pretty much the same thing happened the last time I tried playing. So, I decided to install Morrowind...and...
I used hacks to kill everyone in the census office and uninstalled. Also, the game engine is so poorly put together I had framerate problems on a modern laptop. It is pathetic.
Honestly, I think I'm compelled to start an epic adventure to find a Bethesda game that is worth your time. They are all such lukewarm shit. There is no happy crack-smoking number crunching and anticipation with more traditional RPGs, and It is to broken and stat driven to be an action title.
With the evolution of Oblivion and Fallout 3, I don't think Bethesda has ever been an RPG developer.
So, I'm not the only person in the world who thinks the makers of Oblivion should be crusified from their balls to a cactus? Phew.
But, of course if you like changing the shape of your character's left ear for 3 hours, then run around pointlessly, "fighting" enemys who always seem to have some kind of aura of invincibilty around them (you have to, for example, hit a FISH about 20 times with a longsword to kill it, while it takes away 1/5 of your health every time it bites you, throught your metal armor and shield) and "talking" to ugly idiots who mysteriously say the exactly same thing with the same voice that the previous guy just did.
Just remember to eject the disk and take it out of the DVD drive before smashing IT to Oblivion with the motorized tool/vechile of your choise.
I remember thinking Oblivion was a piece of crap. I fired it up again the other day (because of this thread actually) and found it to be a lot more enjoyable than Fallout 3. That goes to show what crap Fallout 3 is. Seriously, how do they even charge for that "game".
BTW, Morrowind is actually a good game and it's a lot better than Oblivion. However, I agree with Dopemine 100% regarding its' chunkiness. I have never used the command console as much in any other game to simply avoid glitches, dead ends, and broken quests. I can't imagine playing this on anything other than a PC for that reason. I still say that it's a good game on many levels, though.
Morrowind with the proper mods is great, even to this day, IMO.
So your saying Morrowind that doesn't look, play, feel, or function like Morrowind is good?
That last great RPG I've played was KOTOR2, in chronological order of release that is. I haven't played The Witcher due to poor computer resources.
In my opinion if your going for a decent, in depth RPG experience in first person camera, buy Wizardry 8.
The fantasy makes me gag though. I would love a realistic RPG in the medieval time-period without magic and races of tree people who worship floating vulva. So... I'm about to start petitioning for the execution of the developers of Age of Decadence if they don't reach a gold master.
There's also an alarming amount of furry races
I also want said Medieval Rpg to have realistic occurrences, like Oregon trail!(Like say for example you can get the bubonic plague!) Also, political infighting is a must, and I might even settle for low fantasy.
Fuck, someone should just make A song of Fire and Ice Crpg.
Better yet, a Dune RPG.
Psychic powers induced by drugs isn't fantasy, it's sci-fi.
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A Known Space RPG, that is what should be made.
No stereotypical good and evil though Kzinti aren't always pleasant, plenty of political intrigue and psychic powers, although those aren't necessary practical.
Perhaps you misread my post (which doesn't say this at all).
The only mods I use are: Better Bodies, Better Heads, some clothing packs, Balmora Expanded, and Morrowind Graphics Enhancer (which adds HDR lighting).
So, gameplaywise, things stay the same. I just make it look a tad more modern.
MW is a game that feels like the people who made it really put time and effort into making something they could be proud of. Oblivion feels like a game that was created to simply appeal to as many people as possible.
I suggest you use Changing Faces instead of Better Heads, as it's the same quality wise but it also gives every single NPC a unique head, it also uses some of heads from Better Heads. Ultimate Textures pack is also great.
But I couldn't play Morrowind with just cosmetical changes, I always use rebalancing mods as well, for economy system, leveling, etc.
Morrowind Advanced mod is also great for high level characters as it keeps game challenging even in high levels by adding higher level enemies.
Have any of you tried Kobu's "Character Advancement System" mod? It made the game worth playing again for me. You have numerous option with it on how you want your character to advance exactly and it is way better than the default method.
I heard there was also an Oblivion mod that used dialog trees to increase NPC disposition, instead of that stupid emotion wheel. I've been really curious about it, anyone try it?
there is a pattern, there was one actually decent quest in Fallout 3, the letter delivery quest, sad yes?
If I recall correctly, it simply made it Morrowind style. Can't say for sure, since it's been a while.
I think I'll try Morrowind some day. I have to say I was pretty disappointed even with Daggerfall, though, after the free release came out. It has some solid concepts and it's addictive, but it's addictive in a bad way, not a good way; you're compelled to keep playing it even though you're really getting nothing out of it. It's very repetative. It's also amazingly buggy - early beta-stage buggy, in fact. People seem to like the fact that the setting has lots of "lore" as in books and stories and whatnot. My reaction was that it has lots of lore but it's not particularly good lore. From what I've read the changes made from Daggerfall to Morrowind sound like changes for the worse, but I'm willing to give it a try.
Morrowind is quite slow and plays dull until some point, but there is a lot of content and the setting is quite original. Also, it gives you freedom not many other games do.
BTW lately I got an irresitable urge to re-install Oblivion. Good thing I got high Will saves...must...resist...
All the flaws people here sprout at Oblivion, they can all be applied at Morrowind. I don't see why people recommend it. From level scaling to the ability to be master at everything, not to mention that the game has no dialogues...
This isn't entirely true. Morrowind gave you a bigger choice of weapons and skills, gave you awesome ability of levitation (which can completly change the way you do some quests), has a pretty solid storyline, a much richer game world and even though dialogues were wikipedia-style, the text actually had some thought put into it and didn't make you feel like you're reading a book for 5 year old.
Also, voice over - though much more scarse - was far better.
And, lastly, there were no unkillable NPCs AFAIR and the main story did not force you to go through 100+ identical Oblivion Gates.
And you can actually kill Dagoth U.r. (fucking language filter or whatever the hell puts some lame one-liner where people write ur), instead of watching a giant squid or whatever fight it.