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i really loathe the FO3/Oblivion engine, i really do :(

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by zegh8578, Apr 16, 2012.

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  1. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

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    with it, a major debilitating bug is a guarantee, its nothing but a simple matter of time.
    did a new playthrough of oblivion
    i finally got hit with the all-quest-items-turn-invisible bug, and now i have to go through the idiotic process of un-questing my quest items through the console whenever given one, or ill be stuck mid-quests forever (as a bonus, i got a crash followed by a corrupt save-file. "luckily" i had a very recent autosave)
    obviously, in this playthrough ive allready had to mark-essential several characters, ive had to revive a few, and ive had to movetoplayer a few who decided to wander off into god-knows-where, and force-progress some quests through console (the one where you enter a "painted-world" naturally bugged up as per custom).
    the same thing happens whenever i begin a new FO3 playthrough as well, by now i have several pages of notes laying around, little console commands to bring back a whole list of characters, error corrections etc...
    not to mention the things that work fine, but that are still lame as hell, such as the pointless levelling system: you level up, but so does everybody else. thats the premise of: you are special, but everyone is as well, making you effectively un-special :(

    so now my motivation fell right down to 0, and im left with civilization or sim city or something :(
    i really need a better computer and more games :(
     
    zegh8578, Apr 16, 2012
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  2. mobucks

    mobucks i get such a kick out of myself Orderite

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    :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
    mobucks, Apr 16, 2012
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  3. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Level 27 Wizard Staff Member Moderator

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    I feel your pain man. Damn that fucking engine and everything it represents.
     
    TorontoReign, Apr 16, 2012
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  4. Relentless666

    Relentless666 It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Sometimes I imagine Fallout NV on a decent engine... Then I feel sad.
     
    Relentless666, Apr 16, 2012
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  5. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

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    I'm sorry, but why are you playing Oblivion?
     
    AskWazzup, Apr 16, 2012
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  6. KarmaPolice

    KarmaPolice It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    There are worse games to play. Much worse games to play.
     
    KarmaPolice, Apr 16, 2012
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  7. Ohaimerk

    Ohaimerk modoc, den, grave Orderite

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    Thus spake the master programmer:

    "A well-written program is its own heaven; a poorly-written program is its own hell.''

    "Let the programmers be many and the managers few - then all will be productive.''
     
    Ohaimerk, Apr 16, 2012
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  8. fedaykin

    fedaykin Vault Fossil

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    Look at it this way: at least it's possible to use all these console commands to help yourself instead of waiting for patches that will never come.
    I remember the time I lost tons of stuff in NV that was stored in the little flying robot. I managed to get it back after half an hour of tinkering.
     
    fedaykin, Apr 16, 2012
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  9. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

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    Mar 11, 2012
    askwazzup, i dont know. habit. it has varied content, and i like the atmosphere and music...

    fedaykin, yes, i do appreciate the possibility to use console commands, ive often cringed to imagine the frustration had it been on a tv console - especially every damn time i get stuck in a corner...
    my tv-console-promoting friend proudly boasts "no problem! all you have to do is load from a previous save!", oh wow :0

    come to think of it, FO3 should include a "push" function like FO2 :D all those times fawkes or dogmeat decides to place themselves right in my house's doorway, and i have to waste an irritating minute trying to squeeze by...
     
    zegh8578, Apr 16, 2012
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  10. Ben

    Ben Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Oct 6, 2011
    I've been playing on Xbox 360 and never hit glitches THAT bad. You might want to uninstall and reinstall that.

    I was pissed about the Hermaeus Mora quest getting jacked up in Oblivion though, and the Forsworn Conspiracy/Cidhna Mine bug.
     
    Ben, Apr 16, 2012
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  11. Joelzania

    Joelzania Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    I think that half the fun of Fallout 3/Oblivion is just to laugh at the bugs.
     
    Joelzania, Apr 16, 2012
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  12. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Level 27 Wizard Staff Member Moderator

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    The bugs make me cry instead of laugh.
     
    TorontoReign, Apr 16, 2012
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  13. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

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    Mar 11, 2012
    they make you cry and laugh! like the threatre!

    one fun oblivion bug some days ago was that everyone's greaves "exploded" as in, the model or image of their greaves stretched out from their legs, in every direction, often forming huge walls in front of my view. a simple restart of the program fixed it, but still fun
     
    zegh8578, Apr 16, 2012
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  14. Multidirectional

    Multidirectional Mildly Dipped

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    Serves you right.
     
    Multidirectional, Apr 17, 2012
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  15. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

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    I have been playing Fallout New Vegas for so long that various bugs also have been slowly crawling into it, some of them caused by mods I added and others by who knows what.

    Like the poster of this forum I also had to make lists of characters that kept disappeared for no clear reason and have had situations that populated streets were suddenly completely abandoned.

    Because of these annoyances I decided to remove them game and all setting files it made the game made in order for a clean install, and yet again I am already seeing some problems returning.

    Is this a problem this engine causes in all games it uses?
    And how do you get rid of the bugs that come in after a while but are not there in the beginning?
     
    The Dutch Ghost, Apr 17, 2012
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  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

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    well some of the "known" bugs from Oblivion have been present in Fallout 3. They also appeared in Vegas. And now they are in Skyrim.

    make out of that what ever you want.
     
    Crni Vuk, Apr 18, 2012
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  17. donperkan

    donperkan Vault Senior Citizen

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    There's nothing to make out creation is gamebiro. What i don't get is how bethesda can take something that doesn't belong to them rewrite it a little and call it their own.
     
    donperkan, Apr 18, 2012
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  18. Dario ff

    Dario ff Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Apart from the fact you could even use the same modded DLL so the game didn't perform like shit in ATI cards, just like for FNV? :P
     
    Dario ff, Apr 18, 2012
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  19. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Level 27 Wizard Staff Member Moderator

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    Can you explain that a little more? FNV runs like shit on my ATI card and a way around that would be nice.
     
    TorontoReign, Apr 19, 2012
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  20. donperkan

    donperkan Vault Senior Citizen

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    Desperate, are we?

    They are modded ATI dll files, you know, the one's that you get with driver updates. But that is only a fix for some issues which are related to the card. I believe nexus has some of them if you are interested, you can reed more about them there.
     
    donperkan, Apr 19, 2012
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