Eh, raiders are immediately recognizable by their shitty fashion taste. Walked in there, got shot at, instant disappointment that another cool location was wasted.
I think Nuka World and Far Harbor were quite good.
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CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
"Noooo, I don't want to destroy your cool gambling parlor and robots with bugles!"
At least I got an Irish Raider girlfriend from Combat zone.
CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
They attack the player character on sight. No point trying to argue whether they were actual humans or not since a real person would simply invite said player character to gamble (and try to cheat them out of their money).
Yeah, after you murdered all but two people in there because a scripted event makes it so. God, the whole game is jus so incredibly lazy and half-arsed...
I sure wish I had your capability to bury all the shite under headcanon.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I enjoy Fallout 3 and to a lesser extent Fallout 4 because I like exploring and shooting things. It's impressive they can make this trying in the latter.
SarcasticGoodGuy
*R O T T E N*
I like exploration in games that reward it. I have no incentive to explore in F3 or F4. Settlements are completely broken (purifiers and shipments) so why would I ever need to collect junk. "Rare collectibles" grant useless perks, etc. But that's just my opinion I guess.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I don't get that in Fallout 3 because it's full of fascinating little places and tragic stories. Not so much Fallout 4 where every settlement is all the same.
SarcasticGoodGuy
*R O T T E N*
I gave it a chance, it's just wasn't my type of game. Playing after 1/2/NV was the eye opener for me. I like the odd "environmental" story to add depth, but when Bethesda rely on it- no matter how good they are, it becomes stale. Again I have to emphasize this is my opinion and I'm not trying to change yours
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I gave it a chance, it's just wasn't my type of game. Playing after 1/2/NV was the eye opener for me. I like the odd "environmental" story to add depth, but when Bethesda rely on it- no matter how good they are, it becomes stale. Again I have to emphasize this is my opinion and I'm not trying to change yours
Hey man, if you don't like the game. You don't like the game.
SarcasticGoodGuy
*R O T T E N*
There's good to it, like every game. I like to discuss it regardless, mainly because I love taking stories apart and tearing them to shreds.
Juza The Cloud
Nanto Goshasei
When I stopped hating it for the game its not and started playing it for the game it is I began to have some enjoyment with it.
SarcasticGoodGuy
*R O T T E N*
I can get fun out of Fallout 4.
I just can't with 3 though. :/
Juza The Cloud
Nanto Goshasei
I agree with you I cannot get back into 3 really at all and I think I'm better for it. New Vegas on the other hand ive played so much that its like a character build experiemnt then an rpg anymore for me.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
Honestly, I respect Fallout 3 for the fact it feels like a post-apocalypse game in a way very few other games don't. If any game should be re-released with a Survival Mode in the series, it should be Fallout 3. I'm usually a fan of Gray and Gray Morality or Gray and Black at best but it's one of the few games where I really got into the Good vs. Evil conflict.
I think I was inspired by the fact humanity's survival really felt like it was hanging by a Razor's Edge in the Capital Wasteland. Humanity wouldn't get better if you didn't complete Project: Purity, it would go extinct because of the Super Mutants and Raiders and countless other horrors.
As such, I can and often do return to Fallout 3. My only loathing of the game now is the damned extensive tutorial section which I wish you could skip on consoles. It's one of my biggest disappointments Bethesda didn't stick with wastelands which actually felt hellish and full of despair versus the Commonwealth, which feels more like New Vegas.
I.e. that life is going to be fine there. With or without you.
BTW, before someone chimes in on that, I should mention New Vegas' story ISN'T ABOUT saving the world. It has its own thing and the conflict between Caesar's Legion, NCR, Mister House, and your own ambition is entirely different. It's a political story rather than an apocalyptic and works beautifully.
I like the ambiguity of Fallout 4's factions but I also think there's a sense of lowered stakes as a result since whoever wins, the Commonwealth loses.
I think I was inspired by the fact humanity's survival really felt like it was hanging by a Razor's Edge in the Capital Wasteland. Humanity wouldn't get better if you didn't complete Project: Purity, it would go extinct because of the Super Mutants and Raiders and countless other horrors.
As such, I can and often do return to Fallout 3. My only loathing of the game now is the damned extensive tutorial section which I wish you could skip on consoles. It's one of my biggest disappointments Bethesda didn't stick with wastelands which actually felt hellish and full of despair versus the Commonwealth, which feels more like New Vegas.
I.e. that life is going to be fine there. With or without you.
BTW, before someone chimes in on that, I should mention New Vegas' story ISN'T ABOUT saving the world. It has its own thing and the conflict between Caesar's Legion, NCR, Mister House, and your own ambition is entirely different. It's a political story rather than an apocalyptic and works beautifully.
I like the ambiguity of Fallout 4's factions but I also think there's a sense of lowered stakes as a result since whoever wins, the Commonwealth loses.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Fallout 1 had the best good vs evil conflict, because of how it deconstructs it and how it has all the same dynamics but isn't a battle between clear good and clear evil. I've only wished that they added more quests and expanded the end game... I had the idea of changing the end game but I lack the time and capacity to implement my idea...
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
Fallout 1 is a fine game but I hated the time limit. Of the two, I generally prefer the Enclave vs. The Chosen One as I much prefer them to the Unity but I know that's a controversial opinion.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
The time limit was a great hook, because it added player urgency.
Imagine an epic battle where the Master unleashes his armies on the settlements of the Wasteland, and the player has to organize defenses, make alliances between different factions and help save the wasteland over time. If he joins the master he coordinates attacks and plans strategy, while attempting to bring the Wasteland under heel as a mutant.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I'm not a real time strategy man, personally, which is part of the problem I have with Fallout 4 and why I didn't enjoy the original games as much as I did Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I'd prefer to just have to manage myself rather than others.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Nah, it's not real time strategy, but merely trying to nudge the various groups into certain alliances and strategies. But fair enough, I love strategy games and would love the added aspect. Or I had an idea for a totally new game, based heavily on the gold rush, but less stupid spaghetti western.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
*wrote a Cthulhu Mythos spaghetti Western*