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i'd support caesar's legion except.....i've killed them all.

My first blind playthrough i made the mistake of entering Nipton with NCR armor.....that didn't go well. Since then i've killed every last one of them i've come across.

Between the dumping of radioactive waste at cottonwood cove, and constant raids at the Fort and the parading with Caesar's head on a stick there aren't too many left. There are usually more slaves than legionnaires at the Fort, they should just make a run for it...
 
I will never side with them, I dislike their ideology, I hate how they look and sound. Most ridiculous and out of place (major) faction in any Fallout game I've played (IMO of course).
 
sadly yeah ... but actually they have so much potential exactly because they are so alien to the franchise.

I just wish Obsidian would have spend as much attention to the Legion like they did with the NCR.
 
I would support them if:

1. They weren't technophobes
2. They weren't woman haters
3. They weren't slavers
4. They weren't so strict
5. They weren't obsessed with conquering the NCR

Although in the game I get a strong urge to support them every playthrough. I think it has to do with the way Caeser talks. Both the tone and intonation of his voice and his 'to the point' style of speaking.
 
I would support it if they weren't so sexist and Didn't make slavery such a big deal, Slavery was never that big a deal in the Roman Empire, it was a part of life yes but they never obessed over it like the legion does.
 
The Legion never obsessed over slavery, I don't think any of them even mention it except the guy that you can buy the slaves from. The only way you can even tell they're slavers is because you see the slaves walking around at the fort and because people in other factions tell you they are.
 
Now that I completed one Legion playthrough (well I haven't played Legion only, did some NCR quests, then backstabbed them, used disguises to further create chaos in their territory, same with other factions which was quite satisfying and more fun than my NCR/Yesman playthrough) I feel a bit different about them. Yes, there is still a lack of quests and stuff to do in the Legion only quests, but I feel what the developers wanted the player to do was exactly like I've written above, not to say "oh, this playthrough I'm gonna side with the faction XY mutually exclusive" - but to look into each quest seperately, not to see quests as "oh this will grant me more reputation there!" and rather than "what will my character do in this situation" and use disguises much more. Atleast for me it was a much more rewarding experience and I could even stomach the silly attire of the legion and the like. In my future playthroughs I will do this aswell, not going in the game with some already closed mindset, rather backstab faction XY in the last moment even if you helped them throughout the game. Never thought I could like the Legion before, but this really helped. ;)
 
The Legion never obsessed over slavery, I don't think any of them even mention it except the guy that you can buy the slaves from. The only way you can even tell they're slavers is because you see the slaves walking around at the fort and because people in other factions tell you they are.
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And those in the cage at Cottonwood Cove. And the one in the camp with an obviously fearful voice, not counting those with the huge package and broken legs mentionned before. And the fact they explicitely put slaves in the Arena to slaughter for fun and stopped because it eventually bored them. And ''some slaves have been spreading stories about the Burned Man again''. Only way they could be more explicit is by wearing ''SLAVES R FUN!!!'' tatoos on their foreheads.
 
Yeah but they didn't obsess over slavery. I don't see how what they did was that much different than Rome, didn't it even mention somewhere that slaves could earn freedom at the Colosseum in the Fort?

At least they weren't like Paradise Falls slavers in FO3 with "Lol we're slavers we're evil will you go catch slaves for us lol." :roll:
 
Courier said:
At least they weren't like Paradise Falls slavers in FO3 with "Lol we're slavers we're evil will you go catch slaves for us lol." :roll:
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Amen to that.

Oh by the way, I was at the fort today just talking to random people. So I approach this slave and she said that the legionnaires wanted to rape me :(. I really wish the Legion was less "We are bad guys!" and more "We are brutal, but this is a brutal world".
 
I'd imagine that the women on the front lines are treated a lot worse than women treated back in Legion territory. In the Roman empire women weren't really full citizens, but they were held in high regard and could own property and get divorces and the like. I'd imagine it might be a bit more like that back at home for the Legion.

I think people criticize the Legion for the wrong things, if anything their biggest flaw that would have led to their downfall was the fear of technology. Their rejection of modern medicine was alone probably enough to destroy them.
 
Sabirah said:
I really wish the Legion was less "We are bad guys!" and more "We are brutal, but this is a brutal world".
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That shouldn't be remedied by toning down the Legion, but by revving up the wasteland. In a social collapse and hundreds of years into such decay rape would become standard, every day fare.
 
To be fair according to Raul who witnessed the Legion's takeover firsthand the raping and violence has gone down since Legion took over, so they can't be pure evil.
 
Courier said:
I'd imagine that the women on the front lines are treated a lot worse than women treated back in Legion territory. In the Roman empire women weren't really full citizens, but they were held in high regard and could own property and get divorces and the like. I'd imagine it might be a bit more like that back at home for the Legion.

I think people criticize the Legion for the wrong things, if anything their biggest flaw that would have led to their downfall was the fear of technology. Their rejection of modern medicine was alone probably enough to destroy them.
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Well that is part of the issue though.

We can only judge the things as how we see them in the game. Anything else is just pure speculation. Unless we have not seen how a territory controlled by the legion is looking like particularly a Town. We can only assume that things are different then on the "front line".

And what the game shows makes it really very hard not to imagine the Legion as a huge army of "slavers" raping the world/land they conquer.
 
Courier said:
I'd imagine that the women on the front lines are treated a lot worse than women treated back in Legion territory. In the Roman empire women weren't really full citizens, but they were held in high regard and could own property and get divorces and the like. I'd imagine it might be a bit more like that back at home for the Legion.

I think people criticize the Legion for the wrong things, if anything their biggest flaw that would have led to their downfall was the fear of technology. Their rejection of modern medicine was alone probably enough to destroy them.
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So Rome was like The Caliphate only a little less women's lib? I did not know that.

Anyway the legion is still a better choice than NCR but I still like taking Vegas myself and forming a nice Emirate is the best option, the only problem is yes man getting more assertive.
 
Crni Vuk said:
We can only judge the things as how we see them in the game. Anything else is just pure speculation. Unless we have not seen how a territory controlled by the legion is looking like particularly a Town. We can only assume that things are different then on the "front line".

And what the game shows makes it really very hard not to imagine the Legion as a huge army of "slavers" raping the world/land they conquer.
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Yeah that was kind of Obsidian's fault for not providing an actual Legion town to see. The best we got was Raul's word that things were better after the Legion took over. I still think it's pretty safe to say though that what we did get a look at doesn't provide a very good view of what the Legion's actually like. For example, an American military base in Afghanistan does not provide a clear picture of what life in America is like.
 
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