Impressions thread for positive impressions

Buxbaum666 said:
You're the one who provided me with all those nekkid skins for my female Malkavian, right? :mrgreen:
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LIES..!!! NEVER..!! IT WASN'T ME..!!!

Oh wait... yes, it was me. Sorry. Too much Coca Cola this morning.

And hello. 8-)
 
Under those ads on the top of the forum, you can find a "Profile" text. Click on it, and then scroll down when you'll notice a "Signature" text :P
 
Buxbaum666 said:
It has been argued that isometric games aren't profitable, that Bethesda has thus made the right choice, that our expectations are way too high and that we should live with it.
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Well, whoever said that needs to be dragged off to a home for the terminally bewildered...

Most successful single-player PC game of all-time:
Diablo II, which is played entirely in isometric view.

Its highly anticipated sequel, Diablo III, will likewise be played in isometric view.


In any case, I don't think it matters. Most of the flaws in F3 have nothing to do with its perspective. It's just weak, dumbed-down and heavily sanitized. It's also a game that was specifically developed for consoles and then sloppily ported over to the PC afterwards. Bethslop figured that they could cash in on not one, but two built-in audiences at the same time: Fallout fans and Oblivion fans. The result is a shitty mess that has completely lost its identity.

Having a big sandbox filled with cool stuff to do might be entertaining for some people (especially for people with low expectations and who routinely accept mediocrity as the norm), but the weak storyline and atrociously sloppy graphics will ultimately send the PC version of F3 straight into the bargain bins after Christmas.
 
Tessera said:
I've already posted a lengthy preview and then later, an actual review on my own site...
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That remark would be more useful if your review were viewable without needing a forum account
 
Tessera said:
Buxbaum666 said:
It has been argued that isometric games aren't profitable, that Bethesda has thus made the right choice, that our expectations are way too high and that we should live with it.
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Well, whoever said that needs to be dragged off to a home for the terminally bewildered...

Most successful single-player PC game of all-time:
Diablo II, which is played entirely in isometric view.

Its highly anticipated sequel, Diablo III, will likewise be played in isometric view.


In any case, I don't think it matters. Most of the flaws in F3 have nothing to do with its perspective. It's just weak, dumbed-down and heavily sanitized. It's also a game that was specifically developed for consoles and then sloppily ported over to the PC afterwards. Bethslop figured that they could cash in on not one, but two built-in audiences at the same time: Fallout fans and Oblivion fans. The result is a shitty mess that has completely lost its identity.

Having a big sandbox filled with cool stuff to do might be entertaining for some people (especially for people with low expectations and who routinely accept mediocrity as the norm), but the weak storyline and atrociously sloppy graphics will ultimately send the PC version of F3 straight into the bargain bins after Christmas.
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Don't forget the highly anticapated Dragon Age by Bioware.
 
TorontRayne, start trimming your quotes. As should everyone else who quotes a big block of text and then adds a few lines at the bottom.
 
Brother None said:
Tessera said:
I've already posted a lengthy preview and then later, an actual review on my own site...
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That remark would be more useful if your review were viewable without needing a forum account
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The adult nature of my website prohibits that, unfortunately. If I did as you suggest, then I'd just receive multiple complaints from others who might prefer not to be exposed to nudity and adult content. Thus, the "members only" nature of our board keeps those kinds of complaints out of my hair.

I suppose I could move my Fallout 3 review up to the public area of our Forums. That's a possibility and I will consider it.
 
Brother None said:
Huh? But your entire site is adult only.

Ah well.
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Yes and that is why the entry page for our site includes a legal disclaimer and an "I agree and I am over 18" button.

Our Forums are the same: you must agree to the age restrictions before registering. That way, I can retain plausible deniability if some irate parent comes screaming to me about how their 12-year-old saw a nipple (gasp!) on tessmage.com :P


EDIT to add:

Here ya go... a publically viewable version of my review...

http://www.tessmage.com/forum/index.php/topic,55054.msg49384.html#msg49384

Better..? 8-)
 
Dude, does your avatar, on the other forum, generate a gravity field of its own? It doesn't seem to bounce properly.
 
Buxbaum666 said:
NYHoustonman said:
It's incredible the bias some of you 'old timers' have.
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I think it is quite natural to be biased against a supposed RPG and sequel to a franchise you love if it turns out to be a mediocre first person shooter with RPG elements, messed up canon, crippled SPECIAL system, very limited dialog options, linear main quest, repetitive dungeon crawling, black&white karma system, a lack of choice&consequence and a mini-nuke launcher.

NYHoustonman said:
they know there's no reasoning with a good deal of you.
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That's a non-argument. I could say there's no reasoning with all those people who come here, telling us that Fallout 3 is a great game and that we are all biased and hate the game just because we want to hate it.

NYHoustonman said:
But, among you 'old timers,' you'd think this game was about a 5/10 - I sure as hell hope the average gamer doesn't come here and decide not to buy the game because of all the BS. Is it flawed? Yes, if you sit staring at them for long enough, virtually every game ever made has flaws. But, in my book (not to mention in the minds of the vast majority of critics and gamers outside this forum), it's a great game.
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Opinions - everybody has them. In my book, all those 10/10 reviews are most unjustified. It's beyond me how many of those reviews mention major flaws and proceed giving the game 10/10 anyway. The same thing happened with Oblivion.

NYHoustonman said:
It'd frankly be awesome if you'd admit that you 'old-timers' are biased, or don't give Fallout 3 a fair chance.
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Nonsense. There are quite a few people here who like the game. Mind that liking the game doesn't mean ignoring it's flaws.
See http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=47007

NYHoustonman said:
This is one of the highest-rated games of the year, far from the 'waste of time' so many of you make it out to be.
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Do you like the game because you actually like it or do you like it because it is "one of the highest-rated games of the year" and thus can't be less than awesome?
And you accuse NMA members of being biased and not to reason with but you think that your opinion is the right one? Sweet.
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I understand completely that it's natural to be biased against the game as a fallout sequel. As I've already said, I have no right to judge the game in that context. But an 'objective' review of Fallout 3 as a game requires, in my opinion, starting from a clean slate.

It boils down to this - my argument was that I love the game (Yes, I actually do, I wouldn't be arguing here if I didn't, but nice try there anyway) and that so do the vast majority of critics and gamers. For some reason, and I contend that this has to do with the 'Falloutness' (although some of you try to play this off as completely unrelated), I've seen several people, you included now, rate the game quite harshly (again, as a game, not a Fallout sequel).

Your counter-argument is that you think the game sucks (okay, can't win 'em all), that the vast majority of reviewers and gamers, on the other hand, are incredibly biased (I'm not, I just recognize a good game), that some people on this board like the game (I've seen that, but that has nothing to do with my argument - there's clearly more hate than love here).

Ultimately, yes, I think my opinion is by far the more common one - just not on this board (and no, that doesn't make it the 'right' one, no need to twist my words that way), and that's what bothers me. It just seems as if most of you aren't giving the game a chance. I've seen some legitimate criticisms (often blown out of proportion when you consider the entire game, though), but I've also seen a lot of nit-picking and downright ridiculousness (Half-Life 2 - the original - has better graphics? Give me a break. Best game of all time, but no).
 
Wooz said:
Dude, does your avatar, on the other forum, generate a gravity field of its own? It doesn't seem to bounce properly.
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I hope it doesn't bounce. My avatar is an animated GIF of a real live girl... seen from the rear. If a girl's butt is bouncing, then it's time for her hit the treadmill. :wink:

In other news...

Regarding that comment about F3 being the "highest rated game of the year," ummm... no, it is not. None of those reviews that you have been seeing on the commercial gaming sites are legitimate. The fact is that all of them were bought and paid for by Bethslop and/or Microsloth and/or Sony. It's called "payola" and it's rampant in the gaming industry these days. In fact, there was a scandal last year, when GameSpot fired one of their veteran reviewers... simply because he gave a bad review to a bad game. Well as it turned out, the publisher of that game had already paid mucho dinero to GameSpot for a *good* review. So rather than lose their payola, they fired a longtime employee instead. Sleaze-o-rama.

So just ignore the "9/10" and similar reviews that you've been seeing. Nearly every single one of those reviews is a total fabrication.


NYHoustonman said:
But an 'objective' review of Fallout 3 as a game requires, in my opinion, starting from a clean slate.
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Are you suggesting that a game that is named "Fallout 3" shouldn't be judged as a Fallout game..? Then why didn't they just name it something else, if they wanted people to review it in some other context..? You aren't making any sense here.
 
Tessera said:
Wooz said:
Dude, does your avatar, on the other forum, generate a gravity field of its own? It doesn't seem to bounce properly.
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I hope it doesn't bounce. My avatar is an animated GIF of a real live girl... seen from the rear. If a girl's butt is bouncing, then it's time for her hit the treadmill. :wink:

In other news...

Regarding that comment about F3 being the "highest rated game of the year," ummm... no, it is not. None of those reviews that you have been seeing on the commercial gaming sites are legitimate. The fact is that all of them were bought and paid for by Bethslop and/or Microsloth and/or Sony. It's called "payola" and it's rampant in the gaming industry these days. In fact, there was a scandal last year, when GameSpot fired one of their veteran reviewers... simply because he gave a bad review to a bad game. Well as it turned out, the publisher of that game had already paid mucho dinero to GameSpot for a *good* review. So rather than lose their payola, they fired a longtime employee instead. Sleaze-o-rama.

So just ignore the "9/10" and similar reviews that you've been seeing. Nearly every single one of those reviews is a total fabrication.


NYHoustonman said:
But an 'objective' review of Fallout 3 as a game requires, in my opinion, starting from a clean slate.
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Are you suggesting that a game that is named "Fallout 3" shouldn't be judged as a Fallout game..? Then why didn't they just name it something else, if they wanted people to review it in some other context..? You aren't making any sense here.
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Couple of points -

I never said it was the highest rated game of the year, I said it's up there. Please don't misquote me.

There's no way for me to prove that you're wrong in stating that most reviewers have been 'bought,' as I can't prove a negative, but I feel the onus is on you to prove yourself right... I'm still skeptical. The bottom line is this - most gamers and most reviewers at least 'like' the game (I personally put it just below Mass Effect among my favorite games of the year), and aren't calling it a '4/10' or a 'waste of time.' Neither of us is going to go anywhere with this argument if we're going to make baseless claims like that (and, no doubt, the next one will be that the majority of gamers are unsophisticated and blinded by hype).

In any case, the lowest recognized review so far has been a 72/100, with every single other review coming in at over 80, making it at the very least a solidly 'good' game among reviewers. As mentioned, I find it hard to believe that every reviewer has been influenced in such a way.

For the umpteenth time, read my posts and make sure you understand before you reply. I've said twice now that I can't judge the game based on being a sequel to Fallout 1/2, and that I would never attempt to. Let me say it a third time:

I have no problem with people hating Fallout 3 as a sequel to the previous two (!!!)

But, as a game in general, it is great (obligatory 'to me and most other gamers' here). It may not be what fans of the previous games wanted, but that doesn't automatically make it bad as a game - this is what I mean when I say that for a truly objective review, you can't take things like that into account.
 
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