Interesting (alternative) life philosophies?

[BonusWaffle]

You didnt "point out flaws" in anything other than your own ability to understand my post. Feel free to go back and read it if you feel like it, or take your oh so amazing knowledge of quantum physics and shove it up your ass, whatever makes you happy.

 

[fred2]

Does anyone have interesting life philosophy he or she would like to share?

I for example, was raised to believe in a God but ever since I studied theology and philosophy (with some psychology as a hobby), I came to the conclusion that everything is governed by LOGIC. As a Christian I couldn't explain reality (maybe religion doesn't want to explain reality) but logic helped me understand why are we here in the first place. I felt indescribable calmness once everything fell into place and this has helped me recognize some obscure but bad life choices.

Not necessarily philosophy or interesting, but your post reminded me a recent comment I made about why religion would be a powerful tool in post apocalyptic society. Mostly it reflects my observation of human nature, and our basic needs.

Spoiler

Religion is primarily ... about US. Our place and purpose in the universe, our lack of control of what happens and our monotonous/depressing reality of our life etc..

We created the construct of god, an abstract idea of a powerful being that in control of everything. A being that find each and one of us special, that listen to our prayers and thoughts, that loves and cares about us despite our many faults and failing and most importantly forgive us! In this fairytale God made us and everything for a reason and with a purpose, and despite the hardship we should go on no matter what, because at the end of the tunnel haven is awaits us..

But Religion is much more than belief in god, its away of life. It provides sense of community, so we feel that we are apart of something, that we belong and a reason for people to get together. It provided a support system(priests), someone to talk too. It provide a reason for people to wakeup in the morning and continue to go on.

On top of that for the time, the bible as a collection of wisdom and stories passed over sentries also provide some good practice and values for life. Though of course today its got little outdated and superseded in the literary sense. It was also used as an excuse for many crimes, but I think we all smart enough to realize that people don't lack for excuses when they need them.

Also a little bit off topic. IMO religion was very influential tool for humanity and with its modern rejection, many people lost "their way". Not in a sense that religion is what we need, but that in the short time that our society had so many changes, that many haven't found an alternative system that offers similar benefits for them, sure
we have other ways for self delusion and escape, but from from my perspective they are not as good in some respects.

 

[fred2]

One of the down side of the age of information, is that sometimes ignorance is a bliss.

 

[SnapSlav]

One of the down side of the age of information, is that sometimes ignorance is a bliss.

Some added irony is that the source of that quote was a mistranslation of a much more scathing satire, "Blissful are the ignorant" (similar to tempus fugit being mistranslated to "time flies" rather than "time is fleeting"). The original quote was never praising ignorance as a good thing, but condemning people who were lost in their own ignorant worlds, blissfully ignorant of the real world around them. Fun trivia for your brain mouth to chew on. =)

I was going to make my own philosophic thread at some point, but seeing as how this one's already gone down a shitter direction, I feel it might be best to just skip that, and forgo much comment on my own philosophies. It's a strange thing when someone else's perceptions have to be taken so personally by people who don't even know them, that they must combat one another over not thinking the same way. Funnily enough my own philosophy "answers" that conundrum, but not like that really matters. I suppose a neat way of saying "Yeah, I dig that" is that I liked Carlinism, when Carlin was still alive. Unlimited rights, practical application of total freedom to not drown yourself in short-lived hedonism but rather a longevital exploration of your own life, enjoyment of said life, etc.

 

[Crni Vuk]

that pretty much sums up the internet. Give humanity a global platform where they can discuss everything with each other, no matter where they are.

And what are they doing with it?

Porn.

 

[Muff]

that pretty much sums up the internet. Give humanity a global platform where they can discuss everything with each other, no matter where they are.

And what are they doing with it?

Porn.

The net is 2-5% porn, most of the global bandwidth is hogged by Spam and Botnet's, then it's Facebook, Twitter and Youtube, Gamaing networks etc.

 

[SnapSlav]

Considering the near-limitless number of possibilities to be shared and discussed in the whole scope of the internet, taking up an entire 2-5% is absurdly massive. Also, isn't much of the "spam" porn related anyway?

 

[AskWazzup]

I like porn... Now not by my own decision, but my body is holding me hostage. Though i wish it was a bit more professional... I wish you could learn math, or philosophy, or, or history by watching porn, just think of the possibilities .

 

[Crni Vuk]

there might be actually a niche market for that. Who knows.

 

[fred2]

One of the down side of the age of information, is that sometimes ignorance is a bliss.

Some added irony is that the source of that quote was a mistranslation of a much more scathing satire, "Blissful are the ignorant" (similar to tempus fugit being mistranslated to "time flies" rather than "time is fleeting"). The original quote was never praising ignorance as a good thing, but condemning people who were lost in their own ignorant worlds, blissfully ignorant of the real world around them. Fun trivia for your brain mouth to chew on. =)

I meant what I said. Ignorance is like shit to a fly, it might be disgusting to us, but to the fly it is warm and fussy. It ties in to my previous post about religion. We invented god because we want to feel that we matter, that we belong, that there is something better etc. People used to live in small communities ignorant of the big world and felt good about themselves and about their achievements. Now we invented the internet\TV\etc which has given us a sort of godlike omniscience, but for the vast majority it just revealed that they live in shit, that they are little clogs that don't matter, that every thing you ever thought of was already thought off, done and uploaded to youtube etc etc etc no wonder so many actively seeking a fix to reality...

Unlimited rights, practical application of total freedom to not drown yourself in short-lived hedonism but rather a longevital exploration of your own life, enjoyment of said life, etc.

nicely said.

 

[alec]

I like porn... Now not by my own decision, but my body is holding me hostage. Though i wish it was a bit more professional... I wish you could learn math, or philosophy, or, or history by watching porn, just think of the possibilities .

I remember a tv-stunt which consisted of having a female news anchor read the news while doing a striptease.
I know for sure that I would have gotten better results at school and university if my female teachers and professors would have done a similar thing.

Yet, at the same time, stuff like that sort of pisses me off as well. If you know that books written by beautiful people sell better than books written by ugly fucks, then something is awfully wrong with the world.

 

[Atomic Postman]

Recently I've been going through a bit of a religious/faith/belief dilemma and yesterday I got things sorted out.

I've changed from being Atheist to Agnostic.

To sum it up, I generally think Life, the Universe and Everything is beyond me, and most people, so I prefer to keep an open mind and flow on through life,I'll find out what happens at the end.

 

[alec]

It's amazing you needed so little time to make the jump from atheist to agnostic. Are you sure you thought it through well enough?

 

[AskWazzup]

Yet, at the same time, stuff like that sort of pisses me off as well. If you know that books written by beautiful people sell better than books written by ugly fucks, then something is awfully wrong with the world.

Yeah, because these kinds of books are shit books, what did you expect? How many people read Kafka, or Dostojevski for their looks

 

[Atomic Postman]

It's amazing you needed so little time to make the jump from atheist to agnostic. Are you sure you thought it through well enough?

It was a period of about three months where I didn't know what to believe, and I finally got it sorted out the day before last, and yeah, I'm sure.

Faith and Belief has always been a big thing to me, and I decided to say Fuck it,it's beyond me.

Like I said, I'll find out what comes after when I get there, until that day I'll live my life as I wish to live it.

 

[AskWazzup]

It was a period of about three months where I didn't know what to believe, and I finally got it sorted out the day before last, and yeah, I'm sure.

Faith and Belief has always been a big thing to me, and I decided to say Fuck it,it's beyond me.

Like I said, I'll find out what comes after when I get there, until that day I'll live my life as I wish to live it.

Just make sure your wishes do not border the social hazzard zone . But it's a good thought, because being tied so some, one branch of views always ends up being pretty artificial, as you have to constantly patch up the cracks that, time from time appear in any theory. And what do you know, even agnosticism is not safe from that , so why not look at everything not only as red, blue, black, but maybe shades of orange, grey, azure.

 

[Sduibek]

These came to my mind:

1) A Course In Miracles.
2) Nihilism.
3) Brains In Vats.
4) Scientology. (seriously, what the fuck)
5) Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

[Akratus]

Recently I've been going through a bit of a religious/faith/belief dilemma and yesterday I got things sorted out.

I've changed from being Atheist to Agnostic.

To sum it up, I generally think Life, the Universe and Everything is beyond me, and most people, so I prefer to keep an open mind and flow on through life,I'll find out what happens at the end.

"An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid." -Carl Sagan

I will remain an atheist for the longest time however, as I reckon it.

I am not one because of the belief that there is no driving force behind the universe in any form, but that the gods humans have perchance invented are false by their very nature. There's no more reason to belief in zeus moreso than apollo than jesus than buddha.

It leaves me quite dilemma-less to simply dismiss every such god character as well as most religious and spiritual thoughts on things we can not perceive, prove, disprove or even agree upon.

Just the fact that different people come up with different spiritualisms dispels their truth.

 

[Crni Vuk]

I guess something that you can do is to believe in Jesus or Buddha as historical figures. You can not do the same with Zeus or Apollo though. Just saying, you dont have to be religious to agree with some of the things Buddha or Jesus said. Particularly if you see Buddha as some kind of philosopher. He is a very interesting personality. Or at least what we know about him today.

 

[AskWazzup]

Well Buddha is believed to have been a real person, though his life history is mired with colloring by various buddhism branches (there are quite a few of them), some of them mild, some of them on the "jesus" level. In it's core buddhism is more akin to philosophy than religion though, but time has skewed this view.