who says america has to be around all the time ?
Hence why it is an better idea to get in peacefull terms with your neighbours.
Hence why it is an better idea to get in peacefull terms with your neighbours.
Ilosar
Vault Fossil
But my point is that the actions of the US (and Israel to a lesser extent, I can't really fault them for existing after all) have caused the crisis. Things were settling down, and then they decide to just trample in during the Gulf War and turn the tensions into a gigantic mess. It's easy to say ''make the best of a bad situation'' when you strongly participated in creating the situation in the first place.
And while it's true that peace is far away unless one side is defeated, that's still no reason to maintain a hostile attitude at all times. Or still back up governments like the military in Egypt. The West is digging itself in a very deep hole in the Middle East. And yet it cannot leave because of Israel and goddamn oil. The whole thing is just a disaster waiting to happen again. There's nothing cool or glorious about it.
And while it's true that peace is far away unless one side is defeated, that's still no reason to maintain a hostile attitude at all times. Or still back up governments like the military in Egypt. The West is digging itself in a very deep hole in the Middle East. And yet it cannot leave because of Israel and goddamn oil. The whole thing is just a disaster waiting to happen again. There's nothing cool or glorious about it.
I wish it would be all just like in don't mess with Zohan.
Becaues if you would be European I would tell you to ask your great grandfather about his opinion regarding the Germans (if he was French for example). France was for a long time the "archenemy" of Germany. And vise verca. And today ? They are both one of the leading nations inside of the European Comonwealth.
People have only to remember that they actually pray to the same god.
Maybe youre simply not european enough. And I mean this without any offense.Bal-Sagoth said:
Becaues if you would be European I would tell you to ask your great grandfather about his opinion regarding the Germans (if he was French for example). France was for a long time the "archenemy" of Germany. And vise verca. And today ? They are both one of the leading nations inside of the European Comonwealth.
People have only to remember that they actually pray to the same god.
DammitBoy said:
You have my approval...and since this is a Fallout website, even the Vaultboy approves, let the invasion begin.
Nology5890
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Let's do it. A couple airstrikes later, the druglords will be crying "Freedom!".DammitBoy said:
Starseeker
Vault Senior Citizen
TorontRayne said:
Sure, any time, I am just glad someone bothers to read it. Since Welsh doesn't hang out as much anymore, we don't really have any half decent discussions about China any more. A lot of people and "pundits" these days spouts nonsensical comments and opinions about China all the time. I might've believed them too if I had never lived there. Some of the CCP arsekissers are getting harder and harder to watch these days. Oh well. Ignorance makes the heart grow founder, I guess.
Anyway, can someone split this thread already, it feels like more than half of the discussion isn't even related to the topic at hand.
how can you guys be so sure that the US of A has not been already anexed by the brown people ?
T
TorontoReign
Guest
Starseeker said:TorontRayne said:
Sure, any time, I am just glad someone bothers to read it. Since Welsh doesn't hang out as much anymore, we don't really have any half decent discussions about China any more. A lot of people and "pundits" these days spouts nonsensical comments and opinions about China all the time. I might've believed them too if I had never lived there. Some of the CCP arsekissers are getting harder and harder to watch these days. Oh well. Ignorance makes the heart grow founder, I guess.
Anyway, can someone split this thread already, it feels like more than half of the discussion isn't even related to the topic at hand.
I do think this thread was slightly derailed, and Crni Vuk I have no fucking idea what you are talking about with the brown people remark....maybe I missed something.
look around you. There are more Mexicans, Chinese, Arabians etc. in the US of A then Americans.
Your land is Conquered. Owned and divided already. And you didn't even realized it !
it was just a stupid joke as reply to another stupid joke (annexing mexico) because well the US is one of the nations with the highest counts of immigrants if I remember correctly.
Your land is Conquered. Owned and divided already. And you didn't even realized it !
it was just a stupid joke as reply to another stupid joke (annexing mexico) because well the US is one of the nations with the highest counts of immigrants if I remember correctly.
Thats okay, in a generation or two they will be fat and dumb or aspire to be celebritys like real americans. The system works.
paladin_lord
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I think one of the few strong enough things that could start a war might be the constant need for more resources such as oil for example...
... capitalism (as we see today) is simple not sustainable, even with the late projects to create natural energy production or a policy to reduce pollution all the damage caused this far might not be repairable . All those projects are usually palliative when it comes from governments because they are not profitable for the great companies, of course might be a few exception to that but they are an isolated minority (such as some non governmental organizations)
and the impact they can cause i consider minimal...
perhaps the problem might not even be the capitalism, but the greed of man that corrupts it, this greed and hunger for more and more ... scientists already discovered that the oil sources will end in about a century, that discover is decades old ... a lot, i really mean a LOT ... of occidental society depends on the energy production that comes from oil that brings riches and wealth to many great companies, small companies and even ourselves while driving a car, a motorcycle, alternative energy production is not on the level to supply all the need that will come from the end of the oil sources ... and that might be too late to begin large scale production of that new energy ... guess what, we might not even have resources for that. that would lead to an economic crisis much worse than the one we are see now ... there is also the problem of ...
Water ... the pollution caused by our factories, our cars ... etc ... exploration of new grounds, modifying the natural course of rivers to build hydroelectric power-plants, that is slowly but constantly disrupting the original course of nature, i read in a scientific magazine ("super-interesting") that nowadays we are consuming much more than nature can supply, if we don't hit the break (real hard, not the light baby kick we have being doing this far) water supplies will run dry, and the countries that can't supply its own people will buy it from others (perhaps at exorbitant prices) or invade neighborhood boarders to secure these resources ... add that to the oil problem and we are all screwed ... don't matter if you are from U.S.A , China, Canada, South America or Europe ... all screwed as here comes world war three ... guess what, nuclear bombs ... actually when i think about nuke warheads i think about this guy ...
... capitalism (as we see today) is simple not sustainable, even with the late projects to create natural energy production or a policy to reduce pollution all the damage caused this far might not be repairable . All those projects are usually palliative when it comes from governments because they are not profitable for the great companies, of course might be a few exception to that but they are an isolated minority (such as some non governmental organizations)
and the impact they can cause i consider minimal...
perhaps the problem might not even be the capitalism, but the greed of man that corrupts it, this greed and hunger for more and more ... scientists already discovered that the oil sources will end in about a century, that discover is decades old ... a lot, i really mean a LOT ... of occidental society depends on the energy production that comes from oil that brings riches and wealth to many great companies, small companies and even ourselves while driving a car, a motorcycle, alternative energy production is not on the level to supply all the need that will come from the end of the oil sources ... and that might be too late to begin large scale production of that new energy ... guess what, we might not even have resources for that. that would lead to an economic crisis much worse than the one we are see now ... there is also the problem of ...
Water ... the pollution caused by our factories, our cars ... etc ... exploration of new grounds, modifying the natural course of rivers to build hydroelectric power-plants, that is slowly but constantly disrupting the original course of nature, i read in a scientific magazine ("super-interesting") that nowadays we are consuming much more than nature can supply, if we don't hit the break (real hard, not the light baby kick we have being doing this far) water supplies will run dry, and the countries that can't supply its own people will buy it from others (perhaps at exorbitant prices) or invade neighborhood boarders to secure these resources ... add that to the oil problem and we are all screwed ... don't matter if you are from U.S.A , China, Canada, South America or Europe ... all screwed as here comes world war three ... guess what, nuclear bombs ... actually when i think about nuke warheads i think about this guy ...
Water.paladin_lord said:
While Oil might be a very important resource our economy can be changed (over time) in ways where Oil becomes less and less important. They already start to do it now. With cars which work on hydrogen for example. I think at leats in the next 50 years we will see here many changes.
But drinkable water might become a serious issue for many places. Not just in third world nations.
valcik
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
This one comes to mind as well:paladin_lord said:
White Knight
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Sabirah said:
I think he's talking about the fact the world's population is growing, and due to the use of technology we waste a lot of water. Putting a water purifier won't solve anything if there isn't enough freshwater.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Sabirah said:
Read a book, or a newspaper.....
White Knight
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Mr. Black said:
How we would transport the water? We're not talking about small amounts. To balance the water deficits in the western world or even just the UK, we would need billions of litres of water. How can we move that?