Is the US a shitty place to live?

Russia has nukes and a modern military. How the fuck will that chang? If we are talking global ambitions, the europeans got on aboard the terran empire train. NATO will not allow another global player. Its up to Putin to decide whether to rock the boat or not.
 
DarkCorp said:
Russia has nukes and a modern military. How the fuck will that chang? If we are talking global ambitions, the europeans got on aboard the terran empire train. NATO will not allow another global player. Its up to Putin to decide whether to rock the boat or not.
Click to expand...

You mean he either is a weak ass nation or a power house. Hmm what would you choose?
 
NATO isn't going to take away Russias nukes or military. That would be a fallout type disaster. He is not WEAK.

HOWEVER, we do not want him as a hegemon/global empire guy. Only one dude gets to do that. Is it FAIR? Fuck no. But whats the alternative? Why the heck did I bring up Europes past for??

If he doesn't like THAT? Too bad. NATO/WEST is here to stay.

As I said, he can get aboard the Terran Empire train or not. 3 out of 5 of the permanent security council members are enjoying the ride. The decision is his and the implications as well.
 
Last edited:
DarkCorp said:
NATO isn't going to take away Russias nukes or military. That would be a fallout type disaster. He is not WEAK.

HOWEVER, we do not want him as a hegemon/global empire guy. Only one dude gets to do that. Why the heck did I bring up Europe for??

If he doesn't like THAT? Too bad. NATO/WEST is here to stay.

As I said, he can get aboard the Terran Empire train or not. The decision is his and the implications as well.
Click to expand...

What dude? The president?

The thing is who is better? I don't see America any better then Russia. NATO is just America's sex slave and so is most of the West. Why else is Europe so peaceful? Cause America/UN/NATO do the fighting. Countries like France and Britain just send off their men to NATO and are done with it. They claim supporting the UN/Americans/NATO and yet aren't seen as warmongers if things go bad.

The Terran Empire is a bad idea. Globalisation is a bad idea. It leads to the poor becoming poorer and the rich getting richer. Just go to the Middle East, China and India.
 
No the dude is West/NATO

But NATO has 3 out of 5 of the permanent security council members, AKA the strongest nations in the world.

And who are we fighting?? People like Putin who refuse to play friggin ball.

Terran Empire is a bad idea? How was Europe, with 6 hegemons fighting eachother for hundreds of years, better than a planet where we call ourselves Terrans. Why not get rid of all that nationality typing bullshit. We can explore eachothers cultures sure, but lets get rid of borders and nations as a whole.

Conquer land??? Lets fucking conquer some planets.

PS: Your never going to get equality. Resource competition makes that impossible.
 
Last edited:
DarkCorp said:
No the dude is West/NATO

But NATO has 3 out of 5 of the permanent security council members, AKA the strongest nations in the world.

And who are we fighting?? People like Putin who refuse to play friggin ball.

Terran Empire is a bad idea? How was Europe, with 6 hegemons fighting eachother for hundreds of years, better than a planet where we call ourselves Terrans. Why not get rid of all that nationality typing bullshit. We can explore eachothers cultures sure, but lets get rid of borders and nations as a whole.

Conquer land??? Lets fucking conquer some planets.

PS: Your never going to get equality. Resource competition makes that impossible.
Click to expand...

Normally I'd support the Terran Empire, but one dominated by America and it's lackeys? Never.

It's impossible anyway with out MORE war. So the Terran empire will only happen after WW3. Ironic isn't it?
 
It doesn't have to be a result of war like some cliche piece of PA fiction.

It happens over time. You can see this as 3 out of 5 of the permanent security council members have signed up.

Maybe Russia without Putin some day might join as well.

And something like the Empire would be historic, obviously, old ways of doing politics will HAVE to be reformed. The elimination of national status and borders/boundaries makes things all of a sudden a lot better.
 
DarkCorp said:
It doesn't have to be a result of war like some cliche piece of PA fiction.

It happens over time. You can see this as 3 out of 5 of the permanent security council members have signed up.

Maybe Russia without Putin some day might join as well.

And something like the Empire would be historic, obviously, old ways of doing politics will HAVE to be reformed. The elimination of national status and borders/boundaries makes things all of a sudden a lot better.
Click to expand...

Human nature wins out.

Maybe but you'd be surprised that his heirs so far are more hardline then him so I doubt it. True but it depends. We may get an oppressive dictatorship or a peaceful wonderful thing.
 
DarkCorp said:
NATO isn't going to take away Russias nukes or military. That would be a fallout type disaster. He is not WEAK.

HOWEVER, we do not want him as a hegemon/global empire guy. Only one dude gets to do that. Is it FAIR? Fuck no. But whats the alternative? Why the heck did I bring up Europes past for??

If he doesn't like THAT? Too bad. NATO/WEST is here to stay.

As I said, he can get aboard the Terran Empire train or not. 3 out of 5 of the permanent security council members are enjoying the ride. The decision is his and the implications as well.
Click to expand...

*shrugs* thing can change. Who knows what will be in 20 or 50 years. Who knows what happens when the US can not really support it's military anymore. Nothing lasts for ever. And in such a situation it will be much easier to accept compromises.

I guess the biggest fear is an alliance between Germany and Russia and I don't mean that in a war-type scenario. I mean on an economical level. German technology and Russian resources. On a corporate level this already happens. Many German compies invested heavily in Russia and they invested in our companies. Germany is still very dependand on Russian gas, just like the rest of Europe. And China is also on the horizon.

It is just a guess but I would assume that there will be several major players in the future. THe US will lose some of it's power, Russia and China will gain some power. This might actually even work nicely in the end. Who knows?
 
Well ... I am not sure though. I am pretty confident that they would not be really better, just different, but at the end it would be the same shit. Again, just my personal opinino, but I think in the long run it is better if there are a couple of more or less equall powers that keep each other in check, as long as they work together on the important stuff and things don't end up like pre-WW1. But considering how close many nations are tied to each other economically and that quite a few nations have nuclear weapons I don't think this is very likely. So they would be forced more or less to work together.

So far no nation with one Mc Donalds has waged war with another nation that also had Mc Dondalds.
 
Crni Vuk said:
So far no nation with one Mc Donalds has waged war with another nation that also had Mc Dondalds.
Click to expand...

I agree with pretty-much what you said before this. Not to be too pedantic, but this statement is a common falsehood kind of like that whole humans only use some% percent of their brain falsehood. This idea of "McDonalds = Peace" comes from a polysci work, The Lexus and Olive Branch or something like that. A counter example was he NATO/US bombing of Balkans/Yugoslavia or the US in Panama. In the interest of geopolitical fairness Russia in Georgia and Israel in Lebanon are also counter examples.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/07/28/is-it-even-possible-to-kill-an-international-relations-theory/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/04/04/mcdonald_s_pulls_out_of_crimea_will_tom_friedman_be_retroactively_proven.html

 
You ... you thought I was serious with that?

*to clarify, the notion that Mc Donalds is the guarantor for world peace is obviously ridiculous and silly, hence why I posted it - albeit replacing the UN with a giant Mc Donalds sure has its charm, the clown would make a funny ambassdor I am sure! However the idea behind it isn't so outlandish though, namely the fact that globalization, economic collaboration and cultural exchange make it harder for 2 nations to wage war between each other, not because their leaders suddenly love each other but simply because a war would have to many negative side effects. But I am talking here about equal oponents, Like if you take Germany and France as example which probably never a peacefull realation for such a long time like in the last 70 years. Pitting Serbia against the US or Russia against Ukraine etc. isn't really what falls under my definition of a full blown out war where both nations use all the resources they have on their disposal, be it with people or their industry. I mean as bad as it was for Serbia, for the US the bombing of Serbia was probably nothing more than a weekend trip.
 
Last edited:
Letter of the Law/Spirit of the Law I suppose.

I feel what kept France and Germany from fighting another war was a combination of things like the Elysee Treaty (which I feel often gets over looked) and greater economic synchronization. So, I feel we are pretty much preaching to the choir on this issue of Mcdonalds then.
 
Dr Fallout said:
The thing is who is better? I don't see America any better then Russia. NATO is just America's sex slave and so is most of the West.
Click to expand...

Awesome terminology. Be right back, I gotta use the bathroom. Don't disturb me. I'm also taking my laptop in there.... don't worry about why.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top