I agree!
(Atleast the old testament) No but Christianity is pretty retarded too, anyone who reads whats written in the Bible and Quran and says ''That sounds reasonable'' shouldn't breed.
It doesn't matter really. In the midle ages people killed others because they couldn't agree if Jesus had possessions or not ... so everyone who even owned as much like a coin or bag of gold, was a herretic in the eyes of some die hard Franciscans. Girolamo Savonarola, a Dominican friar ruled for a short time over Venice as a defacto Dictator, preaching clerical corruption, despotic rule and the exploitation of the poor. Under his rule, children would roam the streets, demanding enter into the homes of wealthy citizens and burning their possession on the streets. People got killed for as much like owning a golden ring. We are talking about people here, that follwed the new testament.
You don't need the Shariah or the old testament to get people to kill and hate others. Hence why I don't understand why people see Islam as something special really, particularly if you consider that the Moslems kill mostly each other because some follow Alevism, others Wahhabism and another one is following the Shia. And those are just the popular Islamic schools, there far more smaller ones. So there is not one single Islam. And the constantly kill each other as well. If you think Nice or Paris are Bad? Then you should see Bagdad or Syriah. They have such attacks pretty much every month in some regions. And you can believe that a group of Sunna as minority in a certain region is probably not very fond of radical Shia muslims and would benefit a lot from secularisation. That's why I find it very dangerous to simply lump all Muslims together. Like, they are all dangerous!
A few 100 years ago, 100 000 died because of evangelism and catholicism. Many European nations have gone trough a very violent time where the opression by religion was reversed, the so called age of enlightment, and where peacefull priests and believers have been killed by the thousands. Like in France. But similar things happend in other places in Europe too. Since we know both sides, we simply agreed that the faith and religion belongs in the church where as politics belongs in the parliament. And it is best to seperate those as much as possible.
See, I am not a friend of religion and definetly not Islam in particular. I despise any religious system. I think it is very dangerous. But religous freedom is one of the pillars of a working democracy. You can't have a healthy and working democracy, while at the same time excluding a certain religion. Particuarly when it happens for the most part on a lack of understanding and fear. Fear leads to unreasonable decisions. The moment you close down mosques and remove Muslims from your society or prevent them from entering your nation, simply because they are muslims ... the radical terrorists win. This directly ties into their propaganda. They even say it on their pages! That attacks on western nations, like France, should be a top priority, so the French government is forced to act with harsher laws and regulations on their Muslim population. The moment we talk about Islam as en entity, we simply loose.
No. You're making a lot of really dumb assumptions.
''Oh geez he doesn't want muslims in his country? Hmm, that must mean he want them in his country in Auschwitz style camps, and segrate the-''
The problem is that you can't have the one without the other. You can't call your self a liberal and free democracy, with free spech, religous freedom, but exclude a religion as whole. The fact that you personally, don't want them, doesn't matter. That's your opinion. And you're free to have those. And you should be free to express it. But realistically, you can not get this trough, without violating the rights of your citizens. What would be the next target after all the Muslims are out? Maybe Homosexuals? And what then? Maybe those that are not "true" christians? Like Jehovas Witness? Gypsis? Black people? Either ALL people and ALL religions are equal, or none. In history, it simply happend way to often that populists and extremists would use the current zeitgeist to get their agenda trough. That they don't stop at just one group or just one minority. Those things happen over years and decades. And sooner or later you end up with someone like Erdogan in Turkey, who step by step dismantled the current system. Or someone like the AfD in Germany. And it isn't anymore just about Muslims, but it becomes about Jews as well. Or Homosexuals. And sooner or latter you find YOUR SELF eventually on the other side, simply for what you believe in! Unless of course you fitt in that little picture and world the extremists created.
For example, it is my opinion that Jehovas Witness is a dangerous sect and they shouldn't be around, I had friends that left them, and the stories they have to tell are really not great. But it is not my task to force onto others what they should believe or which religion or interpretation they should follow. The only tool we have in a democracy, is the discussion. Criticism. Enlightement. Arguments. Education. This is a very difficult and a tedious process. But is the only one that works in the long run.
The reason why I fight for Muslisms and Islam, even though I disslike it, is because I am a maverick. Because I don't fall in this neat little picture that many populists and anti-muslim people draw out there. Becuse I have many muslim friends and know people with a non-german background. Because I myself have serbian roots. I am an immigrant. And I know, once the Muslims are out or dealt with. They will simply move to the next target. And I experienced racism already in the past. There is a reason why the Jewish community in Germany is very much against the Muslim bashing by the AfD. They very well know what it means when you reduce everything to the religion.
Maybe you can tell me why you would want anyone who believes you deserve death for not being a muslim (i assume you arent) near you?
Dude, as someone who's very close to homosexual feelings, I know that feeling already. I wouldn't really enjoy a very nice life in Serbia under the mostly Orthodox rule they have there and the fact how Homosexuality is seen on the Balkan in general. But not all muslims are the same. And from my experience, the die hard Christians I met? They are hardly better than the Muslims. That's why I always chuckle when someone comes up with this need survey about how many Muslims support Shariah or are in favour of this or that group. Yeah ... I am pretty confident theat the same survey done with all Christians in this world, would come up with very very similar results. Like, did you know that more than 40% of the Americans believe in Angels? Maybe a large part of those would feel very comfortable with a state based on the Bible? Where Homosexuality is outlawed and who knows how big the support of radical christian ideas and ideology really is?
Just beacause most people aren't sitting with signs at the street saying "God hates fags!" and "When they die God laughs!", means they don't share some of their sentiments. Like you know, the opinion, I don't want to kill homosexuals, but if someone else does it, I wouldn't object. I've seen such people who hold this opinion. A polish friend of mine openly told me, that he would support the extermination of all Homosexuals, because they dilute the gene pool or something. You can for sure imagine my feelings, and which is one of the reasons why I don't openly live out my sexuality. While he was also at the same time in favour of Europe, liberty and freedom of speech. People are very complex beeings. And the same is true for religions.