Kotaku: Fallout 3 is broken

Sicblades said:
Per said:
/comic.php?d=20081112]Ctrl+Alt+Del[/url] deals a blow of mockery from which the previous Fallout games surely can never recover. The joke seems to be either "Turn-based combat is unrealistic, HAHA" or "Role-playing games use numbers to represent stuff, HAHA", I'm not really sure.
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That's a shame, isn't it a story line in his comic that the main char is supposed to be a hardcore fallout fan?
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Donno, he stopped being funny a while back. Now it's just innane soap opera-esk storylines about the characters growing as people. I mean who puts a misscarrage plotline in a light hearted gaming comic? Yeah it happens and it's a tragedy that the parents never really get over but that's not what we want to see when we read a damned comic. Kinda why I stopped reading his stuff and now enjoy "Least I could do" where the author gets that what fans want is a series that has a consistant tone throughout.

And anyway, no, the Fallout joke he made really makes no damned sense because turn based didn't take that long to play and it really doesn't fit. A better comic would have the vault dweller freeze and go turn based and while frozen the raiders do horrible things to him while wondering why he isn't moving.
 
If they weren't so secretive about their games they could release demos, or betas, or whatever.

I mean, we win because we get to know the game and build hype and help the developers enhance it.

And they win because we do their job.

Was Bethesda really afraid of the consumers saying "This game is shit! we won't buy it!" that they didn't release a demo or something?

I just don't get such policies when money isn't an issue.
 
Seymour the spore plant said:
Oh ye of little faith. The CAD rule always comes through.
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Egads! That is an improvement. In fact it's about as much of an improvement as the material will allow.
 
Per said:
Monolith2013 said:
Also, when people have problems they tend to post them right? So, there will be a lot of posts and queries, etc from those experience issues... But when people don't have problems, they tend "not" to post... So it can lead people to believe that the majority of users are experience issues when in fact it's actually the minority posting complaints.
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I'm assuming they compare to how things go with other games.

Monolith2013 said:
People can sit here and spout their own opinion, but it's just that... An opinion, not fact.
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When a games crashes on consoles, it's just an opinion?
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Again, for the 3rd time, i'm commenting on PCs only and the only comment I "would" have for console users is... "sucka!" . I hate the console market and how it's affected the development (or lack there of) of PC titles. The last console I owned was the original Nintendo.

Not to mention the fact that consoles are still not capable of delivering even close to the amount of power a PC can in game play experience. And as a result, Crossovers to the PC are typically dumbed down - hack & slash.

But, I will say that you are all right... Major bugs - Flaws on a console are unacceptable and pathetic at best. But the biggest problems seem to come from the PS3 which wasn't the primary system this game was developed for.


PS... I'm at level 19 w/47hrs into the game
 
Futch said:
If they weren't so secretive about their games they could release demos, or betas, or whatever.

I mean, we win because we get to know the game and build hype and help the developers enhance it.

And they win because we do their job.

Was Bethesda really afraid of the consumers saying "This game is shit! we won't buy it!" that they didn't release a demo or something?

I just don't get such policies when money isn't an issue.
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Because it takes the control out of their hands. They also have shown they could give a shit what other people think, as they're going to do what "they do best."
 
I was going to post something funny about broken gameplay. Then I realized it's rather sad. :(
 
Has anyone encountered any impassable main quest bugs?

I prematurely activated one of the later quests in the main story and now I can't progress at all.
I believe a link to a list of bugs was provided a while back.
Anyone have the link so I can check if mine is on there?
 
Monolith2013 said:
With that being said... who are these "experts" saying FO3 is broken for the majority? Enlighten me please. And I said "broken" not "buggy". Having an occaisional crash upon exit or a slight issue with the sound or something like that dosn't mean a game is "broken".
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I think we're going into semantics territory here. Fallout 3 seems to have multiple issues for multiple users on all platforms where the game has more than minor bugs, but in fact has corrupted save-files, hard crashes or lock-ups. I've seen enough complaints of such issues to call the game "broken" rather than "buggy", it sounds like you disagree more on the choice of words than on the facts.

Monolith2013 said:
Also, when people have problems they tend to post them right?
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Not really. I'd wager only a minority of people post on the BSF tech forums, the rest either contacts tech support, simply looks up their issue on BSF tech or on Google or posts on a different gaming forum (like - say - NMA). That's why you can't just do a headcount on BSF and conclude that's accurate, you have to just stick your finger in the water and kind of guess how cold it is. People who have done that before - like me - can get a good guess out of that, though odds are always I'm wrong.

I prematurely activated one of the later quests in the main story and now I can't progress at all.
I believe a link to a list of bugs was provided a while back.
Anyone have the link so I can check if mine is on there?
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Here
 
Brother None said:
Sorrow said:
It looks like they are referring to some fictional Fallout PnP game with overcomplicated mechanics.
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GURPS?
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I don't think so - I think that's one these luckily forgotten games that are described by traumatised players/GMs when someone says that he wants even "more realism".
It seems to be completely out of place and has nothing to do with Fallout.
 
I got the PC boxed version and have had no random crashes, only when I did a lot zoning I would get a lower framerate and a laggy feel. If I didnt restart when that started happening the game would crash.

Not a big thing, but annoying at times.
 
Hehe, I actually kinda liked the comic...

*hides in bush*

It makes me feel better if I imagine him making fun of VATS, and how before VATS, there were no silly pauses and time stopping abilities, just a realistic abstraction of a series of events. Just make the "Pre VATS" into "Post VATS" and its funny. sorta.
 
thenightgaunt said:
Donno, he stopped being funny a while back. Now it's just innane soap opera-esk storylines about the characters growing as people.
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Wait.

You're telling me CAD was actually humorous at some point? I call bullshit.


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I'll chime in on fallout 3 being broken regardless of specs. I surpass the recommended requirements and the game still blows up every hour or two.
 
I guess i'm one of the lucky one's.

Running it on Ultra graphic settings at highest resolution on my Dell XPS1730, and it's a dream. It doesn't lag, reeze or crash.

Friend of mine reported that it kept crashing on his rig, though. It's a shame. For a game that's been in development for four years, you'd have thought they'd have ironed out the creases.
 
CxBxW said:
Friend of mine reported that it kept crashing on his rig, though.
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That's what he gets for trying to run a game on a drilling platform.

It ran respectably well for me, although I would have the occasional CTD and some NPCs had a habit of vanishing.
 
Per said:
Game was all kinds of broken, eventually patches came out, game stopped being broken, everyone got on with their lives.
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Puh-lease, official oblivion patches fixed so much stuff that people still had to make mods to fix this mess.
 
Fallout 3 has the disctinction, in my household, as being the only game I've played on my PS1, 2 or 3 that has EVER crashed.

Ever.

I cannot remember another game that has crashed to the main "OS" of the system. I've logged thousands of hours into my three playstation systems, and Fo3 is the first and only title to ever crash on me.

Woot for Bethesda.
 
I've had "007: Nightfire" and some of the Koei "(name here) Warriors" games lock-up on me, but that's it. It's BS when console games crash, even worse when they have obvious bugs, but when it's riddled with bugs and crashes then it's just plain fucked.
 
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