Kotaku: Fallout 3 is broken

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Per, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. iridium_ionizer

    iridium_ionizer Mildly Dipped

    Jul 24, 2007
    I bet Bethesda has the statistics on the number of users experiencing crashes from Fallout 3. Doesn't XBox Live and PSN send error reports back to the companies? You would think they did, giving them a reasonably accurate statistics with a large sample size. But why would Bethesda release those numbers to the media. That would be like McDonalds having 538,000 Sick Here right below their 1 Billion Served Here.

    When someone's game locks up at a certain point and even when they reload several saves back they still lock up, that tells me it's broken. Broken because you can't play it. Buggy is when it's just a little goof here or there.
    Actually, with Bethesda I think money is the only issue. And demos and thorough bug fixing doesn't make any.
  2. Nonagon

    Nonagon Still Mildly Glowing

    Jul 8, 2006
    It sounded as though you were angry at Tim Buckley, but that double negative kind of screwed things up...
  3. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    Fallout 3 seems to run pretty horrible on lower-end PCs. I mean, if you have the most modern rig, you'll probably have less trouble, but I have an older nVidia card and it crashes every hour or so, and lags a lot. And it's "the way it's meant to be played" game. Seriously. Every other recent game has been running almost perfectly on this PC I have.

    "I had no crashes so the game is polished" is a lump of BS. I got though vanilla TOEE by Troika with only 2 CTDs. Sure, a relatively bug-free game. The modding community is still trying to fix it. Also, just because it doesn't crash, there are also gameplay bugs that couldn't just "disappear" on certain systems.

    As for statistics... How many outrageous bug and crash reports do you get for Blizzard games? Latest CAPCOM games? Compare to Bethesda... Yeah, exactly.

    I wonder what situation CAPCOM would be in if, say DMC4 would crash or freeze on PS3. But Beth should be fine, it's probably hiring more people for PR and ads than for game development, so that they can justify a bad game rather than produce a good one.
  4. sickfuck_diablo

    sickfuck_diablo It Wandered In From the Wastes

    May 11, 2005
    It crashes consistently on Xbox. Sometimes more than once a sitting.

    Not sure how much play testing there was, but I feel like I/we should be paid for it!
  5. Matt K

    Matt K It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jul 16, 2008
    I kind of doubt those consoles do. For one thing I could imagine that neither Microsoft nor Sony (or Nintendo for that matter) would have thought a game could actually crash on a console. Then again even if they did, that would only cover one of the many bugs in the game.
  6. Wild_qwerty

    Wild_qwerty Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 2, 2004
    I think the joke is that VATs is stupid, I mean how on earth can a Pip-Boy have the ability to suspend time?
  7. rcorporon

    rcorporon So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jan 31, 2008
    As for my PS3 crashing, the worst part is that Beth, if history tells us anything, will sell me Dogmeat armour before thinking of working on a patch.
  8. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    Not everyone is a John Carmack :ugly:
    But, here we have is a sloppy, unpolished piece of software which provide more frustration than fun for the game player.
  9. SoberCounsel

    SoberCounsel First time out of the vault

    Oct 29, 2008
    In a truly unprecedented move by myself I take on the role of Devil's Advocate.

    10-20 years ago it was very possible to create a game or a program and not have to release a plethora of cracks, patches and fixes mostly because there wasn't a whole lot of customisation. Perhaps an adventurous soul might put in some RAM or change the sound card, but more often than not, every Personal Computer was the same:
    (from the perspective that new computers were released generationally and there would be little deviation between types of that same generation.. meaning that developers had a comparibly small list of specs with which to place their game in the confines of.)
    Whereas, as has already been stated ad-infinitum on every gaming forum for the last 8-9 years or so, modern computers have numerous deviations yadda yadda it's too expensive to test on all types sodealwithitbythewayhaveyouseenourshinymarketingcampaignrecently?

    *Adds to the pile of bile heaped against Bethesda*

    On a CONSOLE.. which is more akin to the premade computers of the 80's and early 90's, it is unforgiveable to have as many crashes and glitches on a '10/10' game.

    Balls have been dropped here. And it seems Bethesda are to busy patting themselves on the back to pick them up.

    Fallout 3 has crashed so often, that at night (or late afternoon) I can play drinking games based upon just how many times an hour the game will crash. :roll:
  10. Viliny

    Viliny Vault Senior Citizen

    Aug 19, 2008
    Buckley has always been a douche... but i don't think this is a rip on the older fallout games if i know anything about his work after a couple of years of somewhat following his stuff.

    My Fallout 3 hasn't crashed once yet or generated any head twisting bugs or the likes. Yeah i do have super muties taking some lunar trips after a successfull hit in the arse but thats about it...

    Can't imagine how disappointed i would be if the game wouldn't even run in addition to being what it is.
  11. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    Hmm, sounds like a good idea. Should try that.
  12. Monolith2013

    Monolith2013 First time out of the vault

    Jul 29, 2008
    [/quote]When someone's game locks up at a certain point and even when they reload several saves back they still lock up, that tells me it's broken. Broken because you can't play it. Buggy is when it's just a little goof here or there. [/quote]

    Yes, it's broke for them... Them being a minority I would assume. In which case I would call into question their system first... IE, compatibility issues, hardware/software conflicts, etc, before I would make a blanket statment that the entire game is "broke" for "most" users. And again, i'm only speaking about the PC version, not the console.

    The bottom line is this... We all are playing off the same code/PC version... So it can't "only" be the game that is causing certain users trouble. It HAS to be, at least in part, the users system build, ie hardware/software conflicts.
  13. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all

    Apr 3, 2003
    How is that relevant?
  14. analord

    analord It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jun 18, 2007
    A modicum is a very small amount.


    Aw man... Remember... two June's ago when they took thirty days to release a teaser... It was a nice teaser. Meanwhile people were freaking out.

    "They're going to take out turnbased!!"

    "Shut up. You don't know that."

    I've said it once, I'll say it again. Beth is constipated with information. And the information that actually gets out is polished as fuck. That is until they actually shit out the game. Then we can ... smell the souffle for what it's for...

    Brother None... you are a buzz kill. I liked his segway though.
  15. Jiggly McNerdington

    Jiggly McNerdington Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 14, 2007
    I just had the best bug ever. I beat the game, the final cutscene started, and... There was no sound. Just like Fallout 1 and 2 for me. :clap:

    Haven't tried disabling hardware sound to see if the same fix fixes it or not though.
  16. aronsearle

    aronsearle Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 14, 2005
    To me this is just another example of why customers deserve to be screwed over.

    People keep buying games on release, even though experience tells them most games need early patches, they complain (but don't follow through with any action, oooohhh scary), and you get camp's of people defending such buggy releases.

    Hahaha etc
  17. evilpumbaa

    evilpumbaa First time out of the vault

    Sep 22, 2008
    The original games had more bugs in them than any other game at the time, and even after you installed the patches sometimes they would still not work properly.

    And this Fallout is at least a hundred times more complex a beast.

    Maybe another month though, would have fixed everything.
  18. rcorporon

    rcorporon So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jan 31, 2008
    When I buy a game for my PS3 on launch, there is no excuse for it not working.

    The entire "everybody has a different rig" argument doesn't work on PS3. The game should work perfectly.

    99% of the time this is true. The other 1% is now reserved for Beth.

    Why anybody would argue "well, the original games were buggy so it's okay for FO3 to be as well" is simply beyond me.
  19. aronsearle

    aronsearle Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 14, 2005
    The original games didnt have a multi million pound budget.
  20. Erny

    Erny It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Nov 2, 2008
    was Ctrl+Alt+Del EVER funny or smart?

    its just /facepalm