If anything, the first frame is more reminiscent of Fallout 3's V.A.T.S. than the original combat system of the predecessors. The second frame... Yeah, I don't even know what's the second frame is about. EDIT: Yea, but it says "Wasteland life, pre-V.A.T.S.", not "Role-playing gaming, pre-Fallout". Stupid, no matter how you look at it.