Let me see your headcanons!

[Hardboiled Android]

I don't recall much of it, most of it was from old interview in which Avellone, Sawyer, and the other talked how they played this self made PNP version of Fallout with a system called SIMPLE.

It would inspire a PNP version of Sawyer's Fallout system that had its own wiki.

https://falloutpnp.fandom.com/wiki/J.E._Sawyer's_Fallout_Role-Playing_Game

LMK if you ever fid that source.

 

[SpyBox]

Elijah was blinded by his hope that the Sierra Madre Vending Machines were machines able to create anything out of nothing. These vending machines are just normal vending machines that make the goods hover out of the bottom and are connected to stores in the walls that they are next to. Disregarding the vending machine in the bunker which you can get unlimited goods from (due to the chips in the dropbox), there is a finite amount of chips that you can collect at the Sierra Madre (even with gambling for them) and you are most likely to use those chips on different vending machines.

The Divide/Destruction of Ulysses's Village

The courier was carrying some sort of advanced A.I. created by the pre-war U.S. government to manage the entire Hopeville nuclear missile facility. The reason they were developing this was to automate their missile launching systems so they could be activated without people in the facility and remotely, but also for the A.I. to be able to launch missiles by itself to continue defending America if no one was around. The A.I. would also be able to manage the base and put it back online if the need arose, however, the most important part was the fact that the A.I. had clearance to the base, so inserting it into the base would allow you access. President Eckhart was going to use this system to launch nukes at China, destroying it once and for all, but the A.I. was never delivered, because the lab it was being developed at was abandoned before the Great War (like a day before). Ulysses and his village wanted this A.I. so that they could "re-awaken America's great spears" and hired the Courier to find it and deliver it to them. The courier found the chip, and then walked to Ulysses's village and gave them the A.I. (housed on a portable hard drive). They then inserted this into the base and due to the age of the silo's, the unfinished nature of the A.I., and damage caused by wildlife and radiation, the nuclear bombs blew up in their silo's before they could be launched. The bombs didn't go off right when they inserted it, but when they tried to use the bombs. These detonations created the Divide. During this, the NCR was using hopeville as a supply line and base, and the legion were attacking them there. Later, when Ulysses was asked to deliver another chip taken from an abandoned pre-war lab which was going to be delivered to somewhere but wasn't due to the war, he declined the job offer.

 

[Atomic Postman]

Following the Independent New Vegas ending, the Courier uses the Securitrons to protect the Mojave and enforce arbitration between feuding communities. Following in the path of Vault 21, disputes between factions and communities are resolved through gambling.

 

[Aurelius Of Phoenix]

The Courier took over the Sunset Sarsparilla headquarters and restored it, becoming the sole manufacturer of sunset sarsaparilla and making a fortune in bottlecaps.

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

After Legion victory at Hoover Dam, Caesar allows the Omertas to continue their casino and hotel operations on the condition that they rename Gomorrah to Caesar’s Palace and wear silly toga outfits. Similarly, he allows the White Glove Society to continue their restaurant operation on the condition that they rename Ultra Luxe to Little Caesar’s and exclusively serve pizza and breadsticks.

 

[Atomic Postman]

The Brotherhood of Steel much like their monastic inspiration from Canticle for Leibowitz will effectively outlive everyone else. Through whatever tribulations, eras and versions of themselves they endure, they ultimately persist.

Ron Perlman's narration is a Scribe of the far future accounting tales of the post-nuclear age that are ultimately recorded by the Brotherhood in whatever form they end up in.

 

[Mutant Screg]

We don't get a lot of stuff based in the midwest because there's nothing there. Miles of land that could already be considered wasteland before the bombs fell, broken up by scatterings of out-of-date buildings that won't look as pretty after 200 years of post-apocalypse, if any of those small towns still stand at all. There'd be nothing to loot, nothing to eat, etc. I don't imagine a ton of people survived out there, and it's likely all mutants.

 

[TorontoReign]

Detroit will be done either by Bethesda or someone better for another IP.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Detroit will be done either by Bethesda or someone better for another IP.

I once talked with you about ideas I had for Detroit.

Detroit would have experienced a second economic miracle when "industry came back home".
It was an important manufacturing center of war material during the war such as power armor, and was also one of the staging points of the invasion and annexation of Canada.

So a big military presence and a lot of manufacturing and development.

 

[TorontoReign]

They would have vehicles or it would be pointless to make Motor City a place for Fallout. I had a decent idea that the vehicle you would get would be kinda like Knightrider then Wasteland 3 ripped me off.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Perhaps I would put something like the Box from Van Buren in Detroit, this automated robot manufacturing plant that would be activated if there was a massive civilian riot in progress and the present police forces and the national guard would not be able to handle it.

The Box would start producing flying eyebots and flying security bots, and who knows what else.
Perhaps the local police offices would also have those giant robo dogs that are also designed for riot suppression that would also come online.

So central Detroit is now full of robots that think that everything human and human like is a rioter and needs to be either arrested or be 'pacified'.

Perhaps the place was never activated until some idiot prospector managed to get inside and triggered the system.

 

[TorontoReign]

A Robocop reference to cyborgs being used for the police would be a must have.

Anyway here is my head cannon.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

A Robocop reference to cyborgs being used for the police would be a must have.

Anyway here is my head cannon.

Of course. Perhaps the plant 'converting' some prisoners into humanoid police brain bots?

The people get this idea that some human hating machine intelligence is behind the capture of people in central Detroit as part of its plan to wage war against humanity.

But when you get into the factory's computer core section you discover that there is no intelligence behind it at all.
It is just some pre-war 'dumb' computer that is carrying out its pre-war instructions.

I could imagine this to be a later game side quest, the main quest being more personal.

 

[TorontoReign]

So Detroit is connected to the Calculator because I say so.

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

We don't get a lot of stuff based in the midwest because there's nothing there. Miles of land that could already be considered wasteland before the bombs fell, broken up by scatterings of out-of-date buildings that won't look as pretty after 200 years of post-apocalypse, if any of those small towns still stand at all. There'd be nothing to loot, nothing to eat, etc. I don't imagine a ton of people survived out there, and it's likely all mutants.

I would think that more people survived in areas like the Midwest than the coasts, considering that the coasts contain most of the US infrastructure and therefore would be a bigger target for bombs. Also I’d consider miles of farmland quite the opposite of a wasteland.

Regardless, my headcanon says that a giant raging dust bowl stretches from the Rockies to the Appalachians, so we both come to the same conclusion that “there’s nothing there”

 

[TorontoReign]

Fallout Tactics happened and covered a lot of the area anyway.

 

[Hardboiled Android]

I would think that more people survived in areas like the Midwest than the coasts, considering that the coasts contain most of the US infrastructure and therefore would be a bigger target for bombs. Also I’d consider miles of farmland quite the opposite of a wasteland.

Regardless, my headcanon says that a giant raging dust bowl stretches from the Rockies to the Appalachians, so we both come to the same conclusion that “there’s nothing there”

While the midwest (broadly defined here as including the Great Plains) as a whole wouldn't be the biggest target across its land area, it does disproportionately possess the most important targets in a nuclear war - missile silos.

In real life nuclear game plans, a majority of all nukes are aimed at missile silos which are mostly located in the Dakotas and Montana. I see no reason that this wouldn't be the case in Fallout - an absolute majority of all bombs dropped would be aimed towards these places. Which would probably have a big part in creating that radioactve dustbowl.

 

[Hardboiled Android]

In Philadelphia, to match the "Ghost Fleets" of China, the United States attempted an experiment where they used reverse-engineered Chinese stealth technology to hide an entire aircract carrier. It worked... a little too well. They lost the ship entirely.

It would only sail back in to port after the Great War. Something very strange has happened. Today, Philadelphia is known as "the Forbidden Zone," a place where the normal laws of reality don't seem to be upheld.

 

[Mutant Screg]

In Philadelphia, to match the "Ghost Fleets" of China, the United States attempted an experiment where they used reverse-engineered Chinese stealth technology to hide an entire aircract carrier. It worked... a little too well. They lost the ship entirely.

It would only sail back in to port after the Great War. Something very strange has happened. Today, Philadelphia is known as "the Forbidden Zone," a place where the normal laws of reality don't seem to be upheld.

That'd be a really interesting idea to explore. Could you expand on it?

 

[Hardboiled Android]

That'd be a really interesting idea to explore. Could you expand on it?

I thought of it mainly in the context of a re-written Fallout 3, with a map more on par with the size of the originals stretching from Pittsburgh down to mid-southern Virginia. THe concept occurred to me because of the Philadelphia Experiment, and also because I had a concept for a colony of Psykers descended from the CIA living underground in a palce called "The Forbidden Zone." Presumably they've named it that.

As to specifically what would be so mind bending about it, it's hard to say. The most obvious stuff would just be cribbing from STALKER/Metro. You could have it look like the Zen from Half Life but with colonial architecture, but I'm having trouble visualizing that. You could have it have weird bisecting time periods, with colonial with re-War with 10,000 years into the future, but that would be hard to do satisfactorialy. In the context of a video game, what it would probably mean would just be re-using assets and enemies from prior games.

One idea I had for enemies were "Bisects," creatures that have been split perfectly in half but are still living. Other than a cool name and idea (cribbed from the Interface saga), I can't really think of a way to make them an interesting or threatening enemy.

So yeah, basically all I have is 1) It's called the Forbidden Zone and 2) There are transhuman Glass Meangerie style psykers living underground pulling strings and doing fucked up stuff.