Michael Jackson: Dead

Seymour the spore plant said:
The king is dead, long live the king!

... or something. His music had stopped being any good for a VERY long time, and the man had turned into a walking joke. Still, it's a damn shame.

you know how many times i've heard or read that fucking line tonight? so fucking what? the fact that he "hadn't done anything decent in awhile" doesn't change everything amazing he DID do. the fucking guy's dead, man. you don't just look at a piece of an artist's time-line when they pass away. let's face it, whether you're into pop or not doesn't matter. the guy was not only great at what he did...he paved paths and cemented himself in music history. if you're too dense to realize that (not saying "you" seymore, but anybody) then just fuck off for a bit while the rest of us give our respect.
 
TwinkieStabllis said:
Seymour the spore plant said:
The king is dead, long live the king!

... or something. His music had stopped being any good for a VERY long time, and the man had turned into a walking joke. Still, it's a damn shame.

you know how many times i've heard or read that fucking line tonight? so fucking what? the fact that he "hadn't done anything decent in awhile" doesn't change everything amazing he DID do. the fucking guy's dead, man. you don't just look at a piece of an artist's time-line when they pass away. let's face it, whether you're into pop or not doesn't matter. the guy was not only great at what he did...he paved paths and cemented himself in music history. if you're too dense to realize that (not saying "you" seymore, but anybody) then just fuck off for a bit while the rest of us give our respect.

What he said.

Also, even if people don't like his music, they have to at least give him and his work props for the impact they had on music. Plus, his music was amazing for its time and is still great.
 
Hey. Some of his later work is still pretty fucking awesome, you know?
"They don't care about us" and "Earth song", I can appreciate stuff like that.
Just saying.
 
maximaz said:
Plus, his music was amazing for its time and is still great.

fuck yeah it's still great. try blasting "smooth criminal" right now and not feeling moved as fuck. and for it's time it wasn't just amazing it was fucking groundbreaking, man. like...universally groundbreaking.

i'll never forget getting dropped off on a drunken night "near" my neighborhood in Boston and flagging down a cab. and this awesome dude from the Congo picks me up and Billie Jean comes on the radio and i excitedly (re: drunkenly) told him to "turn it the fuck up!" and he's like "oh, michael jackson!" and i'm like "fuck YEAH, michael jackson! turn it up, man!" and for the rest of the way to my house we were loudly singing "Billie Jean's not my lover"at the radio like a couple of assholes. fucking brilliant.
 
TwinkieStabllis said:
you know how many times i've heard or read that fucking line tonight?

You mean "the king is dead"? Damn, I had only heard "good night, sweet prince" and a couple of puns with "Beat It" so far.

Hey I hear you man, I'm also a fan of his work from the 80's. But his death was hardly the end of his career, which is probably why this doesn't really hold much impact for me. As I said before though, it IS a shame.
 
yeah, but it's like...pay your fucking respects, y'know?

(i know i swear a lot but i'm not actually agitated, i'm jus' sayin')
 
Why should I give a fuck, man? He was at worst a fucking child rapist and at best a weirdo. I don't know about you guys, but the death of a pedophile ain't exactly gonna bring tears to my eyes.

edit: changed the ending of a sentence and forgot to change the beginning
 
stag maybe once you hit adulthood shit can make sense to you. you weren't even fucking born when i was break-dancing to his shit, man. you're a child, stags. a child.

what he did in his personal life has FUCK ALL to do with the incredible shit he did musically.
 
I didn't say anything about his music, though I will mention that I heard one of his songs on the radio only minutes before learning of his death and was not impressed.

That said, I always did like the Jackson 5.

And believe you me, I understand the weirdness that comes with taking issue with an artist whose art you love. By way of example; Varg Vikernes murdered a dude and is a white supremacist, but fuck if I don't think he made some of the best black metal albums there've been.
 
Burzum is amazing. you're into black metal? the fuck?

anyway, seriously stags...get a copy of Thriller and you'll see exactly where his importance lies.
 
At the risk of taking this thread wildly off topic, metal is easily one of my most listened genres, with black metal being a favorite of mine.


At the risk of stating the obvious, what the fuck is up with Michael Jackson's appearance? Who has any real idea of what's going on with that?
 
Stag said:
Why should I give a fuck, man? He was at worst a fucking child rapist and at best a weirdo. I don't know about you guys, but the death of a pedophile ain't exactly gonna bring tears to my eyes.

edit: changed the ending of a sentence and forgot to change the beginning

I'm 99.9% sure all that mollestation stuff was BS. It was all a bunch of holes trying to get paid. That's all it was and it will not even be remembered as anything more. What will be remembered is his amazing talent and the impact he had on the music and the world overall.

That's why you should give a damn. Like it or not, MJ was a big part of music, art, and general history.
 
Ulysses said:
Always in threes, McMahon, Fawcett and now Jackson.

Now there's a self-righteous ignorant cliché if I ever heard one. Let's assume that three celebrities are scheduled to die this month. How do you know which three they are? How do you know if you got the right celebrities? Compared to Michael Jackson, every other celebrity that's died this month is a nobody. Everybody knows who Michael Jackson is. For this to be in threes, the other two would have to be on MJ's level, wouldn't you agree? A well-known world leader, an epic-scale actor or a legendary author, perhaps?

...

Please do not take this as a personal attack. It's just that almost everybody says this cliché at one point or another when some major events happen in their lives, whether they are happy events or sad ones, personal events or reach across the whole world. They do this in the feeble effort to either impress others by giving off an (fake) air of wisdom, or to justify to themselves the events that have just taken place. Either way it's pathetic.

Anyway, carry on with the thread. Sorry for the impromptu rant there.
 
With his career dead. I'd guess his body would follow suit sooner or latter.

But then I guess High Blood pressure was quite the smooth criminal.
 
TheGM said:
With he career dead. I'd guess his body would follow suit sooner or latter.

But then I guess High Blood pressure was quite the smooth criminal.

The saddest thing is that he had been recording a 'comeback album'. I was really looking forward to seeing and hearing him again. I'm sure it was going to be fantastic and you bet it's going to be multiplatinum when it's completed and released sometime in the future. His career will never be over.
 
lol, the Generational Gap is big here. The people who grew up with him will probably always have a soft spot for MJ no matter what others say about it. Then again, MJ almost single handily jumped started the whole MTV thing back in the 80s, and without that, a lot of people would not even have a job, let along a career right now.

A friend said "The guy had no childhood, an over-controlling father, brainwashed into being a Jehovah's Witness, and not surprisingly turned out to be a troubled adult. But he made some great music. RIP."

And I can agree with that. No matter what happened in the lawsuit (if you are a religious man, which I am not, whatever he did, he will be judged by a higher power now. And not by or from you), he did donate a lot of money into charity.

There was Elvis, and the Beatles, and then there was MJ.

For those who only knew fame, it's a tough life, if he only had a better childhood. But, life is like that.

RIP.
 
I thought I was being told a joke when somebody told me he was dead. Hard to believe, quite sudden. RIP Michael.
 
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