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Microsoft has bought Zenimax/Bethesda
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TheGM
The voice of reason
Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
Fallout 3 and 4 are bad.
Fallout New Vegas and 2 are good.
Fallout 1 is the best.
Go home now.
Fallout New Vegas and 2 are good.
Fallout 1 is the best.
Go home now.
TheGM
The voice of reason
Now that is what I call
Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
Now that is what I call
Yes, a movie. A movie about you getting btfo
TheGM
The voice of reason
No that is a projector. if it was a movie it would look like this.
Atomic Putz forever rekt by their own addled genes. it there was ever a time to leave the simulation it would be right now.
Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
TheGM
The voice of reason
Implying I even read your argument.
Atomic Postman
Vault Archives Overseer
Damn you're right, I shouldn't have assumed you could read.
TheGM
The voice of reason
No you shouldn't.
Y'all are so cute. Ok?
Lucas9
Still Mildly Glowing
Fallout 3 living rent free in TheGM's head. Poor guy got his braincells fried (if there were any there to begin with).
@Atomic Postman I just noticed we both have the best companion as our avatar.
TheGM
The voice of reason
Bullshit. If that was the case I would be charging at least 30% above the market value. any complaint by the tenant would go unanswered. and you better believe the thermostat would be set at a permanent 57 °F/13 °C all winter.
Gizmojunk
Antediluvian as Feck
The irony of using Mike Tyson, kissing, and the Pigeon(s).
It works because they (both wisely, and because of budget constraints) abstracted the desert. Fallout even interprets the terrain of the occupied overland tile in case of encounters—or just wanting to look closely there.
*Sadly this feature was carelessly overlooked by the Fallout 2 devs.
Nothingness (in this case) is subjective. I played most of my time in FO3 by wandering the wastes and avoiding the A to B locations, and NPCs. The key is not to bypass the desert, but to make its exploration entirely optional; to set the PC to auto-pilot—or not.
Fallout was limited to recycling a just few uniquely-generic locations to represent the world's possible encounter zones. FO3 (and NV) had fully traversable land throughout. They simply should have implemented Fallout's map-travel system. Silly how obvious it is in hindsight, but Bethesda was hell-bent on making a 1:1 Oblivion set in the Fallout IP, Obsidian... I've no idea why they dropped the ball; they at least should have known better.
Simply have made the map work just like it did in the first two games—but in 3D.
This was another royal FUBAR on Bethesda and Obsidian both. Aside from that the above mentioned worldmap implementation would have made the encounters seamless, and could have been handled just like Fallout 2; with the Outdoorsman skill.
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*Incidentally, Arcanum had an overland map system similar to Fallout 2's but that additionally allowed the player to walk the [continental!] map in real time; screen by screen. I read that it's estimated to take 48 (real) hours to walk from coast to coast. Doesn't sound very fun though... but imagine if they had salted the map with special encounters, and moderate amount of side content. Imagine if the overland map existed in FO3 & NV, and worked like it does in Arcanum.
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Lucas9
Still Mildly Glowing
@Gizmojunk Everything you said is pretty much spot on. The 3D map design you mention reminded me of Wasteland 2's. Maybe not the prettiest (because of its budget), but pretty much what I would expect a more modern "classic Fallout" game to look like. The water meter is also a nice bonus, I feel like New Vegas' survival system is gone to waste in a game that showers you with items and which has that fast travel vs normal travelling flaw I mentioned. Stocking yourself up for genuine long travels in the desert would be fantastic.
Morgan_
Duckerz
I hadn't heard about this, no. You should make a thread about this dude!
TheGM
The voice of reason
There was one game I played, Kingdom Come Deliverance that took place in an open world but the fast travel was more akin to auto travel and had random things happen to you when you used it. like being attacked by bandits.
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TorontoReign
Guest
@TheGM You got reported for being a poopbutt in this thread. Stop being a poopbutt or more people will complain and retreat to a safe space. Thanks.