More from Carsten on Fallout 3

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In response to the wide-spread buzz and discussion as to what developer would be best suited to develop Fallout 3, Carsten Strehse of SSE posted this on the SSE forums;

<blockquote>Since the FO community is well known for its impatientness and hard criticism I think it's time for some statements.

Everybody should remember the start of this complete FO3 discussion. We always said that we would be more than happy to see a FO3 from a developer which was involved in the development of FO1 or 2. Simply why we love the game (Never forget: Game developers are also gamers. If you aren't a gamer, it's nearly impossible to work on the creative side of the games business). We made the risky step to ask the community about their opinion about a FO3 from SSE. Especially if no other developer can handle it because of financial reasons or something we thought this would make sense for the community. On the other hand we wanted to develop FO3 because we are fans of the FO universe. I'm very sure that I played both games more often than a lot of hardcore fans. Not only because it's fun playing them, but since it's my job to analyze games in detail. I appreciate comments telling me that a FO3 would need this and that, but you can believe me that none of these comments tell me something new. I always said, we would only develop a FO3 if a) we can make sure that it catches the "spirit" of FO1 and FO2 (including TB, blood & gore, FO1 humor etc.), b) we can make sure that ex-BIS staff is involved, c) the community thinks it makes sense.

Why a)? Because we don't want to be the one that make the FO-monument collapse. If a FO3 wouldn't fit to the first two parts, the legend around the game would get damaged.
Why b)? To make sure that a) can't happen. Nobody said that every developer can continue every game series. And we wouldn't be such impudent to say that we don't want the support of the people who were involved in FO1, FO2 or the cancelled FO3.
Why c)? Believe it ot not, the FO series wasn't a huge success from the financial side. I know that the core fans don't want to hear such stuff. However, it's the truths. The topic and style of the game is very focused on the US market. If someone develops a FO3 and the US FO community isn't supporting him, he's lost. If the community don't like the game and won't buy it, there are not that much gamers as customers left on the worldwide market. That doesn't mean that FO has no fans in Europe or Asia. But they're not enough to compensate a flop on the US market.

To make a long sentence short: SSE would only develop a FO3 if we are absolutly sure that we can do it the right way. If we have the feeling that we can't handle it, we would move on to other more profitable projects (yes, we need to make money, even if some gamers think that developers should live from air and love ).

As for the community in general I have to say that it's necessary to face the good and the bad sides if you work with it. You'll always have people who communicate with respect and like adults, because that's part of their character. You'll always have people who are aggressive or rude, simply because it's fun to them. It's not my job to judge one or the other side. Fortunately the internet is a free media and everybody should act in a way he likes. Nobody at SSE takes written attacks serious or personal, we're professionals and it's our job to handle criticism. I also wrote PMs to people involved in flames telling them that a good flame is just some fun and that my comments have nothing to do with disrespect. It's entertaining for the writers, it's entertaining for the readers. Nothing more, nothing less.

OK, I hope that some of my comments help to understand our position. As always I'll be around to answer your questions. </blockquote>

You can ask more questions and read more comments in the thread itself

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Carsten sounds like a really nice guy, and a very fan-oriented developer, but I still hold firm my belief that SilverStyle would not make a good Fallout 3. We've already discussed the numerous issues that would prevent SS from doing so: lack of experience, language issue, the Fall itself, and so on. I would just feel more comfortable with an established group of people making the game.
 
Hey There,

Well... I'm known for my gentle oppionions but I'll just try and say what I really want to say !

I'm working on a Fallout Tactics mod... why... because "I" think FOT didn't have enough features as it was thought to have... That's why Interplay or whoever, brought out the FOT Editor so fans could start making their own mods for the game, improve features and possible missing gameplay.

Well... I don't have an oppinion on making FO3... I think that if you add some FOT and FO1 & 2 features together, it would make a hell of a game... and then so what... if people don't like it... then the should make their own game...

The problem with the game market is that it's to much focused on money and profit making... There are to many lame games on the market that no-one will ever buy... why bother worring about FO3... the series is all seperate from each other... you can play FO2 wihtout having to play FO1... so what if FO3 fails... to bad... you tryed...

But meanwhile who's standing in the cold ??? Right... the fans... and I think it will work alot better if game devlopers would just make this god damn game... Cause I'm getting so sick of hearing all of these rumors and people flaming this and that...

Hell... if I had the tools... I would make FO3 on my own if I have too...
 
To say something about "The Fall"

I don't like the graphics...

FO3 should look like FOT... this game is better in graphics then any other game I've seen... Except Final Fantasy X...

I like seeing FOT graphics... They just remind me of that sweet Fallout Universe and it would be a waste if it got lost... FOT is still my favorite game...

The Fall looks like Battlefield... which is a crap game if you as my oppinion...

<---- No gentle oppinion here... like I said... I'll try and say what I want to say...
 
Please let me hunt an asbest dog through the nine hells
of eternal burning before giving FO3 FOT-Style. ^_^
 
Ok ok, the graphics is personal for everyone... I just like the gameplay, the way it's set up, the team based tactics and everything else that makes the game what it is...

It's way better then the engine they used for FO1 & FO2... So it would be a waste changing it... Pffffffff look at the new console fallout... I mean, come on... We don't want FO3 to become a crappy looking copy of Fallout: Brotherhood Of Steel... I mean, the idea was good... just the end result sucks hard...

I say... Let's just make that damn FO3 and stop f*cking around with all the bullshit... We've been waiting long enough...

Don't you agree
 
Well... we all kinda know how Interplay works his way around...

Interplay should stop focusing on it's money making and start focusing on it's reputation... Cause it ain't all that...
 
Sander said:
I like seeing FOT graphics

Noooooooooooo!!! Hairy Cutesy Deathclaws!

Hm. [Roe]Snake is referring to the overall quality of the game engine, I think, and you can't deny that the engine of FOT is way superior to the one used for FO and FO2, now can you?
Plus: personally, I like the hairy Deathclaws better than those brown-I-don't-know-what-exactly-to-compare-them-with-pixel-critters from the original games. That the hairy Deathclaws are inconsistent with the original setting and story (in which they are reptile-like, right?) is a completely different matter. Hell, they should have made them hairy from the start.
And I don't think they are very cute either. When they rip my character's abdomen open while making that freaky noise, I tend to stop looking at them as Wasteland Furbies.
The pink and purple and green Deathclaws? Yeah, those were gay indeed. :wink:
 
From what I can say... Deathclaws are just like any other species on this planet... They come in different sizes and appernce, so that doesn't bother me at all... the color thing is a different issue... so is the whole deathclaw thing cause that wasn't the topic... If you want to compare costumes... What about RED COLOR ARMOR for your medic for crying out loud... What the hell is a red colored medic doing on the battle field while you're trying to use extreme tactics to evade your enemy's and trying to sneak into their possision... Ever thought of using green, yello or blue armor in a post apocoliptic setting... you're in a wasteland... are enemy's in the fallout universe color blind ??? Yeah right... But ohhhhhh no, the color difference in each character is a way of keeping them apart from others...

What's the deal here... we're talking about FO3... They should make it the way we like it... FOT, FO1 & FO2 style... nothing more, nothing less... no more slick looking Half Life 2 graphics... that will take out the whole fallout feeling... I like FOT because it gives me the feeling of Fallout... they shouldn't change anything else because I fear it will get lost... Make the game... or don't make the game... just make up your mind and say YES or NO ... No more playing around... I don't care who's making it... as long as I get a clear answer... Cause I'm getting sick and tired of seeing this subject coming back every time...
 
Yeah, I didn't even think about the deathclaw thing when I played that underestimated game, but it's true that reptiles DONT HAVE HAIR. Anyway, I'd rather see an american developer making FO3. Even though I'm european.
 
[Roe said:
Snake]about FO3... They should make it the way we like it... FOT, FO1 & FO2 style... nothing more, nothing less... no more slick looking Half Life 2 graphics... that will take out the whole fallout feeling... I like FOT because it gives me the feeling of Fallout... they shouldn't change anything else because I fear it will get lost...

Hm. That's an interesting point. I don't care too much about fancy 3D engines myself, actually. I was so happy when I found out that Arcanum was an old fashioned 2D isometric RPG.
I also think that these fancy 3D engines are the main reason why I don't even finish most of the new(er) games. Everyone keeps telling me that Silent Storm is awesome, and I don't doubt it is, but I bought it and the engine just completely ruined the gameplay for me (all that zooming in and zooming out and having to rotate the map and shit... pfff...). A week or so later I stumbled upon the Jagged Alliance 2 Gold Pack and - wow! - I finished it in a week or so. Sure, the graphics are poor in comparison, but they don't divert my attention from the game and that's what I like.
If Fallout 3 would look anything like KotOR, it would be a nightmare for me. But I'm sure lots of people around here have a different opinion about that.
I'm afraid, though, that a Fallout 3 with an isometric 2D engine will never happen...
 
We don't need 3D first person shooters... It takes away the RPG...

Look at Final Fantasy... they have the money and the resources to make such beatiful graphics and still they keep it simple... I like it so much... FOT is the same way... They kept it simple and good looking... nothing more...

FO3 should be like that... It keeps the feeling, keeps your attention and it wont ruine any part of the series...
 
Carsten Strehse is very fan-oriented developer. Before "The Fall" was announced he asked a German Jagged Alliance and Fallout forum for help. So they developed some ideas which are now used in "The Fall". Also this community was the first which saw pictures of the game. I think he will do this also in cause SSE get the rights for Fallout 3.


http://ja-forum.gamigo.de/
 
But "The Fall" doesn't even compare to Fallout, look at the graphics man... dang, the suck... and we don't need another 3D 1st, 3rd person shooter looking game...

We need that old style man...

Look at Diablo, Final Fantasy... all games that could have looked like Half Life 2... but no, they kept it like the original concepts... And that's what makes Fallout what it is...

I think non of us would want to see this happen... I mean come on... I puke at seeing Battlefield... or any game that looks like that for that matter... I just think they should atleast give us a GO or a NO... Don't keep us guessing or waiting...
 
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