Movie thread

welsh said:
Why was this up for an academy award?

Dude, Lord of the Pissants got 11 oscars, Uma Thurman got a nomination for her pathetic performance, Sean Penn won over both Bill Murray and Johnny Depp, Scarlett wasn't even nominated for either Girl with the Pearl Earring or Lost in Translation...

Considering, I don't think the award for Master & Commander was anything to be ashamed of.
 
It was an enjoyable flick, if a bit slow. If you were a fan of the Patrick O'Brian series, or if you were interested in life aboard a frigate during the Napoleanic Wars, ok. I think they tried to be historically accurate, I know Patrick tried to be when he wrote the series up. But still, pretty shallow for the most part. Yet there could be a sequel there.

Found this with upcoming movies-
More Blade, more Spiderman, more Harry Potter this summer.

Kharn, maybe going to the middle of Russia is a good idea. So far it looks to be a pretty disappointing summer.

http://www.thewallpapers.org/movies/releases.php
 
I beg to differ.

Spiderman 2 will be excellent.
Blade 3 will be fun.

Aliens versus Predator will fucking own.
 
Malkavian said:
Spiderman 2 will be excellent.
Blade 3 will be fun.

Aliens versus Predator will fucking own.

All trite, senseless, meaningless entertainment. I'm growing weary of just being entertained, it'd be nice if a couple of movies actually tried to challenge the mind again. The whole balance towards fun is so tilted, hence Lord of the Rings and Kill Bill.

Spiderman 2 can turn out good, tho'
 
Spiderman 1 was ok. True, one of the best of the superhero flicks to come out in a while, but aren't we just a little tired of superheroes?

Can't someone make an intelligent action film for adults?

Aliens v. Predator- a movie based on a kids game. That show about as much promise as Tomb Raider or Resident Evil. Fun, yes. Intelligent? No.

Movie makers are selling crap because the public is willing to buy crap. A little more originality and creativity isn't much to ask for. Damn, I can't remember the last good comedy I've seen. Perhaps it was Something About Mary?

I admit I am looking forward to Man on Fire or at least the video release.

For a review- http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/m/man_fire.html

Because I think that the original could have been done a lot better.
(original? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093489/ ) but then why can't Hollywood come up with something original for a change? I can understand a remake of some action oldies that stand out- The Postman Ring Twice, The Killing, The Getaway (although the original was better). But now they are picking at the bottom of the barrel.

Originality? Freshness? No. Hollywood has no balls.
 
welsh said:
Originality? Freshness? No. Hollywood has no balls.

Not anymore, now, it's hit an all-time low. Paul Verhoeven actually went back to Holland, where he originally fled from because of creative restrictions, because he got tired of the cowardice of Hollywood. I'm looking forward to his new flick, Zwartboek.

Underrated director, too.
 
Aliens v. Predator- a movie based on a kids game.

Eh...no? They were going to make the AvP movie long before the game. There's just a renewed interest in it now.

It has Lance Henrickson. It will fucking own.
 
I'll tell you what will fucking own:

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These are all predators from AvP. They are listed by Mcfarlane toys as the Elder Predator, the Scar Predator, and the Celtic Predator, respectively. Just look at those blades!!
 
Oh cool! Toys for a movie.

Lance Henrickson- yes, he's shown up in all the Alien movies, and I liked him in Millenium, but otherwise a B movie actor.

Oh they have to save the franchise. So what do we do, take two franchise flicks- Predator and Alien, put them together and hope it sells.

How about an original movie? Remember, Alien and Predator were once original movies before they became the parents of serial offspring.

For more information on Alien v. Predator-
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370263/

Here's the plot summary-

Set in the early 21st century on Earth, Charles Weyland, an industrialist billionaire, leads an archaeological expedition in Antartica. Using thermal imaging satellites, Weyland believes to have discovered the ruins of an ancient pyramid temple that predates the Egyptian and Aztec pyramids buried under the ice. Once inside, the team finds the remains of humans with holes in the rib cage and the remains of facehuggers, meaning that the possibility of the temple being uninhabited is very unlikely. To make matters worse, five teenage Predators are coming to the temple to perform a coming-of-age ritual that involves fighting to the death with the aliens. Soon, it becomes clear that only one species is getting out alive.

I just hope the special effects are good.
 
It will be excellent.

Furthermore - Lance Henrickson is playing Weyland, who ran/started the "Company" (Weyland-Yutani) from the Alien films.
 
Kharn said:
welsh said:
Originality? Freshness? No. Hollywood has no balls.

Not anymore, now, it's hit an all-time low. Paul Verhoeven actually went back to Holland, where he originally fled from because of creative restrictions, because he got tired of the cowardice of Hollywood. I'm looking forward to his new flick, Zwartboek.

Underrated director, too.


underrated??
dude....

from the director who gave you hollow man, starship troopers, and showgirls..........!
 
I agree with what you're saying but your examples are a bit dumb.

AvP will probably suck. I think it'll just be like Jason X, but with aliens...and predators :O

Spiderman 2...meh

I liked Blade 1 and 2, so I'm looking forward to the third one.

But what do you fucking expect? If you're bringing up a bunch of mainstream action flicks, don't complain about them being deep or whatever. You should be complaining about the crappy cgi or political correctness. The intresting movies usually come out of nowhere. And it's not like there's not enough artsy-fartsy movies out already.

I thought Master and Commander was a good action movie. It wasn't entirely historically accurate (the doctor knowing about germs and it was set in the 20s?), but still good.

Man on Fire looks like shit mebbe? Looks like revenge films are the new super-hero films or something. And I don't really like the director, he seems too just vomit out as many kewl visuals as possible when it's not really needed.

Complaining about Hollywood is a little silly though. When have they ever been regulary making deep, intelligent films?
 
megatron said:
But what do you fucking expect? If you're bringing up a bunch of mainstream action flicks, don't complain about them being deep or whatever. You should be complaining about the crappy cgi or political correctness. The intresting movies usually come out of nowhere. And it's not like there's not enough artsy-fartsy movies out already.

I thought Master and Commander was a good action movie. It wasn't entirely historically accurate (the doctor knowing about germs and it was set in the 20s?), but still good.

Man on Fire looks like shit mebbe? Looks like revenge films are the new super-hero films or something. And I don't really like the director, he seems too just vomit out as many kewl visuals as possible.

Meg, I don't agree. Good action films can be done without being redundant and while being smart. I don't expect "deep" but a little more intelligent would help. Training Day, for example, was a great flick. Fargo, a Simple Plan, even Fraility were better movies. I just caught Basic and Identity on HBO. Identity was a clever movie, Basic was just stupid, convoluted and a mess.

Enough the freaking super heroes, video game flicks and TV spin offs.

Why can't there be movies for adults? Granted, not every movie can be Chinatown, Raisin' Arizona, A Touch of Evil, Raiders of the Lost Arc, Aliens. But movies could be better.

Even the flicks that aren't spin offs, suck. I saw Murder by Numbers recently- sucked, I mean where were the damn Numbers?
You can't compare that to a film like Se7en or DOA or the Big Easy.

The problem is that the movies are too expensive, filmmakers can't take risks or challenge an audience. Most movies are going to suck and it is a business. But raising the bar a bit to make movies interesting would help. You're right, a lot of the best movies are being done as Indies, but even those are becoming cliched.

This is like gaming, you as the audience have the right to demand better.

My disappointment with Master and Commander was more that it could have been done much better. The first book by O'Brian with the same name actually tells a more interesting story. It tried to do too much and didn't achieve enough. (oh the film is 1805).
 
When I think of action films the body count usually exceeds 5 or so people. What happened to the action films where a man takes on a whole army? Some guy who isn't a very good actor but at least looks the part. Now we just have assholes who over-dress and drive crappy cars all the time but don't even bother to say a one-liner or do some dumb trick to kill someone.

Training Day was alright. The guy didn't seem that bad though. I liked Bad Lieutenant better? I liked Fargo, Simple Plan. Haven't seen Frailty. They weren't action films though, just...Crime? Nothing spectacular, but good enough and let you think a little.

Murder by Numbers sucked. Didn't have anything number related in it, the killers were wimps and Sandra Bullock is fucking annoying.

I think everything is starting too slide a bit though. Not just movies or games or television, everything. Dig? D:
 
Meg- sorry, clicked the edit instead of the quote. I think I saved all your post though.

When I think of action films the body count usually exceeds 5 or so people. What happened to the action films where a man takes on a whole army? Some guy who isn't a very good actor but at least looks the part. Now we just have assholes who over-dress and drive crappy cars all the time but don't even bother to say a one-liner or do some dumb trick to kill someone.

I think the days of the super action hero are just about gone. Arnie was wise to get out of movies and do politics, his career was coming to an end. Stallone, Van Damme, it's over.

Still you do get bright spots. I thought Pitch Black was pretty cool. Screamers ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114367/ ) was decent. The Ring was fun. But these are all original flicks. Not sequel. Jaws, the original was a great flick. Jaws 2 and the series goes down hill, Jaws in 3d is a joke. That's the problem with sequels.

And there are so many good stories out there that would make good pictures.

There have been lots of good stories told that we don't need to be fed shit becuase it's the summer and kids have to go to the movies and pay $8-10 on some crap.

Training Day was alright. The guy didn't seem that bad though. I liked Bad Lieutenant better? I liked Fargo, Simple Plan. Haven't seen Frailty. They weren't action films though, just...Crime? Nothing spectacular, but good enough and let you think a little.

Murder by Numbers sucked. Didn't have anything number related in it, the killers were wimps and Sandra Bullock is fucking annoying.

Movie could not make up its frickin mind what it wanted to do. I liked Sandra Bullock in Demolition Man, and in Speed, but please God not another fucking Ya Ya Sisterhood. I couldn't watch it and my wife had to turn it off.

Compare a flick like Legally Blonde with one like The Opposite of Sex, and you wonder what the fuck was that director/screen writer/ producer thinking.

Take 'em out and shoot em.

I think everything is starting too slide a bit though. Not just movies or games or television, everything. Dig? D:

Yeah, and that's what worries me. Things are sliding. Not everywhere. There is still some good stuff if you look for it. And I think that the cream usually rises.

I am tired of the superman movies, but I think most would agree Batman 1 was better than the sequels. Spiderman was better than the Hulk, and most of the other comic book heroes are very forgettable- (remember Daredevil? The Phantom? The Shadow?) The only ones of those that I thought were somewhat interesting was Spawn, which kicked ass on the Crow.

That said, if you look you can be suprised. Changing Lanes surprised me in a good way. Ravenous was also a pleasant surprise.
 
welsh said:
How about an original movie? Remember, Alien and Predator were once original movies before they became the parents of serial offspring.

Yes. That's what saddest about the AvP flick. Predator was never developed beyond dumb action flick, despite having a lot of potential, but the Alien-series have always stood for thought-out (if sometimes terrible), more intelligent SF-flicks. Now we're going back on all that to make a pulpy action-movie out of it, and no doubt the series will continue this way.

eom said:
from the director who gave you hollow man, starship troopers, and showgirls..........!

Hollow Man is underrated, and Starship Troopers is DEFINITELY underrated. Show Girls is bad, but misunderstood, and thought of as worse than it is.

RoboCop is a well thought-out intelligent film often confused for a dumb action-shooter. Basic Insinct is an undeniable classic.

His Dutch movies, de Vierde Man, Spetters, Soldaat van Oranje and even Turks Fruit are masterpieces.

welsh said:
The only ones of those that I thought were somewhat interesting was Spawn, which kicked ass on the Crow.

Spawn was terribly inferior to both the comics and the animated series. Completely missed the point.
 
welsh said:
I think the days of the super action hero are just about gone. Arnie was wise to get out of movies and do politics, his career was coming to an end. Stallone, Van Damme, it's over.

I dunno about that. I think its a new generation of action heros. We have guys like The Rock, Vin Diesel, and even Hugh Jackman.

I'd also like to note Kurt Russel as a kick ass action hero, in movies like Big Trouble in Little China!
 
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