NDAA

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Moe Canibo, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8-4n9yxZ_s[/youtube]
     
  2. Token-not-found

    Token-not-found It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Nov 11, 2011
    A "fairweather citizen" ?

    That's a good one.
     
  3. Yamu

    Yamu Le Fromage Vieux oTO Moderator Orderite

    Jul 26, 2003
    I think "a citizen of a fair-weather constitutional democracy" might be more precise.
     
  4. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Its quite interesting to see how the many companies in the US try to "explain" the citizens how regulations on said companies by the government is taking away the freedom of the citizens. And they also sell those laws as communism/socialism.

    I am curious when will the people over there wake up ?

     
  5. Sabirah

    Sabirah Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Jul 10, 2011
    Blame will McIntosh and his book Soft Apocalypse. Now I'm deathly afraid of any type of societal collapse
     
  6. Courier

    Courier Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Apr 10, 2011
    Not true, most Ron Paul supporters are liberal college-aged kids.

    The best comparison I've heard is that Ron Paul supporters/Libertarians are to the 2000's what hippies were to the 60's. They're just sort of the modern version of hippies.
     
  7. Token-not-found

    Token-not-found It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Nov 11, 2011
    That's like the opposite description of paulfans , except the college part.
     
  8. Courier

    Courier Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Apr 10, 2011
    - Young college kids
    - Want to legalize all drugs
    - Want to end all the wars
    - Want to stop big corrupt government

    Sound familiar?


    It's just a cleaner and less sexually focused version of the hippie movement in the 60's.
     
  9. Moe Canibo

    Moe Canibo It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 1, 2012
    Americans, i suggest you vote for this guy, seems like a cool fella.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x9cn0M_AFWg[/youtube]
     
  10. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    Fixed, it's one of the main differences between liberals and libertarians. :V
     
  11. thegaresexperience

    thegaresexperience Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Sep 3, 2010
    If I had more idealism in me I'd be an anarchist, but as it stands I have none.

    Which is why something like this doesn't surprise me, the fact that it took so long is the real surprise. Ever since I was old enough to actually read and understand the PATRIOT act, it seems like something like the NDAA was ALWAYS possible.
     
  12. UncannyGarlic

    UncannyGarlic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 6, 2008
    What is "rather rural"? City population of 50,000? 20,000? 5,000? 500?

    That's not how US law works, the law can be passed and can/will be enforced until someone takes the government to court over it. Private schools can hire other people over those in burqas claiming other reasons.

    Pot, say hello to Kettle.

    They are will to sacrafice freedom which they don't feel effects them for the illusion of security.

    Mitt Romney is a better option?

    The political scale of left and right is centered to the right of the actual scale so many Democrats, especially viable presidential candidates, are pretty close to center. Depending on what district in what state you live in, the scale tends to move. I'd suggest reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

    For a lot of reasons, no. For starters, "hippies" weren't as unified of a group as you make them out to be as there were socialist/communist/"liberal" hippies and libertarian hippies. It's somewhat like discussing the civil rights movement and ignoring the difference between the Black Panthers and MLK's movement.
     
  13. Courier

    Courier Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Apr 10, 2011
    Ron Paul is a better option.

    Mitt Romney is ≤ Barack Obama. I'd still vote Romney over Obama though if that's what it came down to, simply on principle. Romney's just as crooked as Obama, but at least he doesn't have a creepily loyal fanbase that defends him despite the evidence (for whatever reason).

    Paul is the best candidate running though (who actually has a chance of winning at least).
     
  14. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    This. Ron Paul isn't perfect, but he beats the alternative.
     
  15. Sabirah

    Sabirah Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Jul 10, 2011
    None of the candidates are good this year IMO. I just hope it doesn't make the country worse.
     
  16. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    I think we are fucked no matter who wins.
     
  17. Ben

    Ben Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Oct 6, 2011
    Unless Steven Colbert gets that nomination
     
  18. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Yeah. That's change we can believe in.
     
  19. Courier

    Courier Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Apr 10, 2011
    There's always Vermin Supreme:




    Free ponies and mandatory oral hygiene for everyone!
     
  20. Hoxie

    Hoxie King Queer oTO Orderite

    May 19, 2008
    Honestly, since Rick Perry's pretty much done from his own stupid campaign videos and so on, most people see Bachmann is just trying to ape Palin and get her kind of voters, Santorum's just one big joke, I'm at least decently hopeful for someone with at least one iota of decency making it in. They were pretty much the ones where it would honestly be "I'm leaving this country now." levels of hate if they somehow won. Though as much as Obama has/hasn't done, I don't regret him making it in over bag 'o' bones and Palin, I can still say that with all certainty, even if that's all he might have going for him nowadays.