I have the agree with the identically damaged houses - RETARDED!
Every tree in the robot picture is also identical - not even rotated a little bit.
Every tree in the robot picture is also identical - not even rotated a little bit.
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I would agree that they are trying to make landscape cool, not realistic.
This picture reminds me more of Chernobyl, with people evacuated leaving all stuff behind as it was. It's nowhere near nuclear wasteland but it looks more dramatic, more apocalyptic, cooler to the masses.
That's how I see it anyways.
This picture reminds me more of Chernobyl, with people evacuated leaving all stuff behind as it was. It's nowhere near nuclear wasteland but it looks more dramatic, more apocalyptic, cooler to the masses.
That's how I see it anyways.
well... second image is pretty nice, but somehow it looks "cartoonish" and not cruel and real.
[edit] I just read preview of finnish internet gaming site edome and it gave a nice tidbid so i am just going to say it here too.
"In fallout 3 there are many things that make you just feel the tension and effects of nuclear war. For example in one part of the game you capture a random radio message which says "Please, come to x and help us, soon!" it doesnt give the actual location of the place, but a some area where you have to look for that place. After you find this "station" which needed your help, you notice that you were late, you were late for few centuries.. you just see their rotten bodies and bones on the floor.. The radio message was just looping for few centuries.. "
thats something which just drains you in game, atleast in my opinion.
well... in my opinion all of the previous fallout's buildings are just apartment buildings with ruined upper floor leaving only the lowest one for use.. and the roofs of these are symmetric and flat. Thats retarded too.
[edit] I just read preview of finnish internet gaming site edome and it gave a nice tidbid so i am just going to say it here too.
"In fallout 3 there are many things that make you just feel the tension and effects of nuclear war. For example in one part of the game you capture a random radio message which says "Please, come to x and help us, soon!" it doesnt give the actual location of the place, but a some area where you have to look for that place. After you find this "station" which needed your help, you notice that you were late, you were late for few centuries.. you just see their rotten bodies and bones on the floor.. The radio message was just looping for few centuries.. "
thats something which just drains you in game, atleast in my opinion.
BowserJesus
First time out of the vault
The game looks fine. I think you guy's problem is that you're setting your standards too high for some reason and you nitpick at everything. Not every game is perfect, even when you think one has finally done it and looks perfect, the more you play it, the more you notice bugs/clipping.
What I think Beth should have done (and who knows, maybe they did) was pick a few locations in the DC area where different sized atomic bombs went off and design the destruction path based on where the bombs' shockwave was. Such as, going from a crater, to rubble, to burnt foundations, to damaged houses, to no damage at all.
I think the identical damaged house sitting beside its self is pretty dumb, especially to include it in an official screen shot.
There was a game a few years back (I think it was HL2) where instead of placing destroyed, messy, and thrown objects in the game world by hand, they used a tool that 'tossed' objects and recorded where they laid. That way you had quick and easy realistic physic damage to areas. (Imagine a shelf full of items, simulate an explosion, and record where and how each item laid after the explosion)
In this scene in HL2:
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The game creators didn't make the bridge fall piece by piece by hand like stop motion animation, instead they used cinema special physics effects to simulate the bridge falling and recorded where each piece was going.
My point is, Bethesda could have made a few houses (identical or not) and had some one destroy them in real time physics, then let the computer note where each piece fell and which piece is still attached to the main house. Then afterward spruce it up visually and add some elements to make it more compelling, more holes in walls, a few boards hanging here ect.
I think the identical damaged house sitting beside its self is pretty dumb, especially to include it in an official screen shot.
There was a game a few years back (I think it was HL2) where instead of placing destroyed, messy, and thrown objects in the game world by hand, they used a tool that 'tossed' objects and recorded where they laid. That way you had quick and easy realistic physic damage to areas. (Imagine a shelf full of items, simulate an explosion, and record where and how each item laid after the explosion)
In this scene in HL2:
<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Pz3hLTP5U-8&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed>
The game creators didn't make the bridge fall piece by piece by hand like stop motion animation, instead they used cinema special physics effects to simulate the bridge falling and recorded where each piece was going.
My point is, Bethesda could have made a few houses (identical or not) and had some one destroy them in real time physics, then let the computer note where each piece fell and which piece is still attached to the main house. Then afterward spruce it up visually and add some elements to make it more compelling, more holes in walls, a few boards hanging here ect.
Edmond Dantès
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I can't come up with any kind of destruction that would create the damage those houses are showing.
My best bet would be an earthquake combined with a landslide and followed by some localised fire damage in each and every house, probably because it was nice weather that day, everybody went for a barbecue, it started raining and they went inside, thus burning a few holes in the walls when the earthquake hit. Then the fire department arrives and stops the fire, at the same time bumping into every street sign so that it bends slightly in an identical manner. After that there might have been some fallout fly over from a not-so-nearby nuke so that everybody left the area instead of rebuilding the damaged houses.
Oh well, I'll hope that it makes more sense when I'm in the game.
My best bet would be an earthquake combined with a landslide and followed by some localised fire damage in each and every house, probably because it was nice weather that day, everybody went for a barbecue, it started raining and they went inside, thus burning a few holes in the walls when the earthquake hit. Then the fire department arrives and stops the fire, at the same time bumping into every street sign so that it bends slightly in an identical manner. After that there might have been some fallout fly over from a not-so-nearby nuke so that everybody left the area instead of rebuilding the damaged houses.
Oh well, I'll hope that it makes more sense when I'm in the game.
I'm sure the next attempt at a justification for it will be something like those houses are made of FUTURE WOOD! that lasts forever, performs maintenance on itself, can only be damaged by a nuclear blast and always sustains damage in the exact same way no matter what. Oh, and only the east coast has it of course.Westbend said:
I doubt Bethesda will even bother with things such as 'making any sense.' Their target audience is doubtful to notice the presence or absence of actual details. They'll be too busy shooting their nuke catapults at everything.
BowserJesus
First time out of the vault
Westbend said:
Then hope they release the construction kit and fix it yourself.
BowserJesus said:Then hope they release the construction kit and fix it yourself.
I'll be happy to. I assume I will be paid for this, right, since I'm doing their job for 'em? No? Then fuck 'em.