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Good. Jennings is one of the game's better receivers. He and Rodgers should make an A-level duo for years to come.

I also am not sure about the Vikes relocating. I s'pose ownership isn't fan of being in a dead-market location but hey, them and three or four other teams. The Rams are set to move to LA before the Vikes would.
 
The NFLs success over other leagues lies in it's lucrative TV contract, I can't see them giving up on a market of that size
Buffalo I can see moving, hell they are already playing games in Toronto. Or how about a rinkydink town like Jacksonville.

This list of media markets is probably a good indication of where they want to be :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_stations_in_North_America_by_media_market

I forget though, who needs to authorize moves?
That shady shit that the Colts pulled, pulling up moving vans in the dead of night or when Art Modell fled Cleveland. That wasn't league approved was it? I think NFL owners can do whatever they want. The league couldn't stop them from abandoning LA.
 
See, no one realizes how close the Vikings actually are to relocating.

Their lease with the HHH Metrodome ends after this season (or the next, I don't remember which for sure). Since the Metrodome is a terrible stadium (it's really awful - I can't think of a worse NFL stadium, actually), they aren't going to play there anymore. There's no way Zygmund can turn an acceptable profit on his investment in buying the team without a new stadium - not in Minnesota, at least.

The logical solution is for the Vikings to get a new stadium. The problem is that the taxpayers in Minnesota have already "donated" the money to build two new stadiums - one for the Twins, which is a baseball-only stadium, and one for the Gophers, the state university team. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming into building those facilities, and that was before the economic meltdown.

The fact is that the Vikings will have no contractual obligations keeping them in Minnesota after the Metrodome lease runs out, so unless they get a new stadium, they're hitting the road. Besides, the LA market is sitting there empty of NFL franchises. That can't last forever. And the Wilfs have no special ties to Minnesota either. I think they're from New Jersey. Maybe they'll get a new stadium, but it seems like a longshot at this point.
 
I agree twinks.. I'm Green and Gold to the core, and if the vikings move.. that's going to be a very sad day... we'd lose a huge local rivalry.
 
I'd hate to see the Vikes move too, despite their lack of championships, they are a long standing part of NFL lore. Love me some old school Fran Tarkenton highlights, or some nice Deacon Jones shit. It pissed me off to no end to see my beloved Hartford Whalers go to a city where they've never even seen snow and get renamed like they never existed.
What would that juicemonkey that dresses up like the mascot do with his life hen his franchise becomes the Las Vegas Bunny Ranchers?
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LA just isn't an NFL town though, otherwise it'd be able to hold onto franchises. It's the NBA they are nuts for (fair weather fans much?).
I can remember when the Raiders were at their peak in the LA days, Bo friggin Jackson, Tim Brown, Howie Long etc., they'd show shots of the LA Colliseum and it' be half empty, and those that were there were sun-tanning, chilling, fairly ambivalent to what was going on - and I'm talking playoff games.

Besdies they already have USC, which puts better talent on the field than many NFL teams anyway.
 
does that joker have the entire nfc north tattooed on his right arm? hahahah!


also, why the hell isn't Teh Ellissar in this thread more often? i guess i assume everyone from WI is a Packer fan, but shit. dude, you need to do FF with NMA this year. DO IT!!!
 
Tarkenton ended his career in Minnesota by getting booed off the field, and once he left the Vikings he never came back to Minneapolis, except once to have his number retired (actually I'm not sure he even came back for that). Every now and then he mentions how bad the fans were.
 
I never realized that, the guy had some amazing carear stats (just looking them over here)

47K throwing yards
342 Passing TDs
32 rushing TDs
9X Pro Bowler
6X All-Pro
League MVP
and he was such a little gnat, so elusive, what a joy to watch. The stats don't speak to how fun it is seeing him:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrmyllSf7yY[/youtube]

He's got to be one of the most underrated QBs ever. Mainly because he never won the big game, and as time goes by he gets pushed further down the all time lists. He led in every passing category when he retired, that's domination. As generations pass - Marino, Elway, Young, Aikman, Favre, Manning all push him further into obscurity.
 
Yeah, one glance at Tarkenton's stats and you realize how good he really was. He had a bad time in Minnesota though. He never got along with Bud Grant either. From what I've heard, Tarkenton was a very moral sort of person (I don't know if he was religious, or what - I suppose that's what it was), and Grant (I know for a fact) was like a foul-mouthed drill sergeant, constantly swearing and cussing out the players. They got off to a bad start and it never improved.
 
I like how it says "Average Packers IQ: 83" underneath that picture.
With a link to some stupid IQ test underneath that.
 
Sander said:
I like how it says "Average Packers IQ: 83" underneath that picture.
With a link to some stupid IQ test underneath that.
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I'm not sure what that's about - some ad. I've seen the same thing for other teams. No idea whether it's true or not. No doubt there are some real dullards on the roster. I'd figure Rodgers for a three-digit IQ, though. He had a very high Wunderlich score.

Funny how every article mentions she's a grapefruit heiress too. Yeah, I noticed she inherited some grapefruit. 8-)
 
i woke up from a dream which included a long segment where the Packers were playing the Steelers for the season opener on a monday night and the Packers won by a field goal at the very end. it was a high-scoring game with both teams around the 40 point mark.

it was fucking awesome. and then i woke up. *sigh*
 
Another cakewalk year for the Pats coming up :yawn:
Wake me for the Superbowl, hopefully the G-men make it back so we can tie up that little loose end. Revenge is sweet.

I did like it better when the Pats were hardscrabble underdogs who pulled out gutsy plays and won on a Vinatieri field goal as time ran out. They're too good now that even a HS QB could win 11 games at the helm. So predicatable - the only question around here is how many more Championships does Brady have left in him?
I'd put the over/under at 2 myself.

The rest of you guys have fun with your little regular season scrimages or whatever they are, Pat's season doesn't earnestly begin until December. You know, that month when frauds like Arizona, Miamah, and those pussy dome teams show their true colors. I'm calling you out Indy - we've had a great rivalry, but it looks like your punk asses won't be holding up your end of the bargain! What excuse will Peyton have this year? Which team member will he throw under the bus this year?

Am I gloating again?

Fuck Peyton, Archie and Eli, fucking hayseed goober motherfuckers. They get everything handed to them on a silver platter where guys like Steve freakin McNair had to fight tooth and nail for everything they ever got.
"Steve Mc Nair will never make it in the NFL." But Eli Manning, a marginally better than mediocre QB can pick and choose what team has the privelage of drafting him - wow! What other player in the NFL ever got right of refusal? Daddy pull some strings there or what?
When Peyton Manning throws 3 INTs to Ty Law in AFC championship, his GM (chairman of the Rules commitee no less) gets the rules changed to benefit his team!

OK I vented, rant over, thanks ofr indulging.
 
2 championships are about right.

Patriot fans: no one works harder to make everyone else hate the franchise.
 
i'm actually pretty excited...in two years i'm moving back to Beantown so i'll resume my major in Cheeseheadism with a minor in Patriotism.

:D
 
Brother None said:
Patriot fans: no one works harder to make everyone else hate the franchise.
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Of course everybody loved us when we were the NFL's punchline for 40 someodd years. If not for Robert Kraft this team would still be the laughingstock of the league. Seriously, until 2001 the franchise's highwater mark was getting smoked by the '85 Bears, even having the Fridge score on us in an already epic blowout, talk about getting your noses rubbed in it. The rest of y'all were too busy doing the Superbowl Shuffle to notice the graciousness of Pats fans then, huh?
How about Darryl Stingley? The man's physical destruction is little more than another highlight clip for the "Raider" mystique - oh those bad boys, raping, pillaging, crippling.
Getting jobbed for so long makes for some ungracious, obnoxious fans - the prickish elitism, well that just comes with being a New Englander.
Thank the powers that be that Philly never wins a Superbowl, huh?

Hey I know the worm will turn someday and we'll be back at the bottom like we were before, but until then we're eating it up.
 
I dunno, Cimmerian. I haven't noticed the Seahawks fans, another franchise of futility, become arrogant annoying snobs after their SP appearance, even if the pitch on whining about the refereeing was way too high. Not have I noticed the Cardinal fans being elitist either.

Granted, they have less ground for it, but as far as excuses to be an arrogant asshole go, that's a pretty weak one.

Also, I love the Patriots. I don't know about their futile version, I haven't been following this sport that long, but they've fielded some pretty kick-ass teams and given us some great Superbowls in the time I've been watching it.
I don't know of any effort as concerted at turning me off the Patriots as the Pats fanbase puts in tho'. It's almost as if you're jealously guarding your like of the franchise, and the rest of us can't go near your Precious.
 
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