Old School weaponry

Colt M1911A1! The best semi-automatic pistol in the whole world! Chambered for .45 ACP, holding seven bullets in the magazine, accurate and extremely reliable, this is the best pistol anyone would like to have!

Seven .45 ACPs! More than enough to take out every living thing in the world! I vote for Colt M1911 [it's raider-killin' good!]

...Also some other weapons from wasteland as well. MESON Cannon anyone?
 
The M1911 was the best semi-automatic pistol design for a long time but it isn't anymore. There are better designs like the Sig P220 And HK USP. While the M1911 is nowhere near an obsolete design, it simply isn't the best anymore. Also, unless it's tuned, it's not the most accurate either. It's a combat pistol and was never meant for sharp shooting. - Colt
 
If I have a choice about what firearm I carry on duty, it's gonna be the HK USP .45. Holds double the rounds of a 1911.

The HK UCP is gonna be one hell of a weapon though. The pistol in Splinter Cell is loosely based on it.
 
But the Colt will work in any conditions, and the SIG P220 despite it's good looks and accuracy and reliability is pretty fragile weapon, needing regular maintenance and good quality ammo, pre-war if possible.

Colt .45 on the other hand is much more tolerant when it comes down to ammo AND is much more durable.

I think that durability and simplicty win in the wastes.

4 duty I want Colt .45! One .45 round = 3 9mm rounds.

Well, Americans designed the .45 pistole to replace the old .38 revolvers, which were unable to put down Moro tribals on philippines. .38 is ca. 9mm, and while 9x19mm Parabellum may be more powerful, still, the .45 caliber (11.43mm round)) is one of the most powerful in ze world!

Despite the .50 Action express and maybe .357 magnum...
 
Mikael Grizzly said:
But the Colt will work in any conditions, and the SIG P220 despite it's good looks and accuracy and reliability is pretty fragile weapon, needing regular maintenance and good quality ammo, pre-war if possible.
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I think that durability and simplicty win in the wastes.
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So will GLOCK with the same ammo do.....
 
I'd go with the Glock myself. Even if it is 9mm. Maybe the first shot won't stop them but the remaining 16 will. Never really liked the 1911, it's old and seven rounds is only good if you shoot people in the back like the bitch you are. :mrgreen:
In short there are better, more reliable and accurate guns with larger magazines, so why use a 1911?
 
Cause it's got style, mahn, and besides, after you fire off your 17 rounds, and my CRISAT protecton will save me, I will shot 1 (one) bullet at your forehead sending you to meet your ("shh... uuh...shhhh...uuuh... I am your father!....shhh...uuhh...") maker.

Hey, and not always does quantity=quality...

Oh, and I think 9mm has worse penetration than the .45 ACP (steel plate anyone can provide for tests?)

Hmmm, I dont think I am a bitch

*examines himself*

Nope, I sure aint. :wink:
 
CRISAT stops .45 too, besides I shot you critically in the eye, and also, I wasn't referring to you as a bitch, it was a joke and not meant to insult anyone, except the bastards who have a tendency to shoot people in the back. :mrgreen:
Also, there are many guns that have more style: HK USP, Walther P99, Sig P228, Browning HP (now there's a golden oldie), etc.
 
Mikael Grizzly said:
(Fanatical and erroneous rambling)
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Look, no offense, but do you know much about pistol design? Do you know why we've advanced beyond the M1911? Do you know why Browning himself went on to design the Browning Hi-Power which nearly every modern pistol copies? The Sig is not a fragile weapon and it will work under adverse conditions just fine unless you're a total moron. The Colt M1911 is a good pistol, oh yes, it is indeed... But it is not THE best anymore. Saying it is is nearly as bad as the idiots who think the Colt SAA "Peacemaker" is the best revolver design ever because it is NOT either.

There are quite a few pistol cartridges with more muzzle energy than the .45 ACP round. .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .454 Casull, .50 Action Express. The list goes on and that's not counting wildcat cartridges. So please, forgive me, but stop perpetuating the myth of the ultimate gun. It simply does not exist. - Colt
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Also, there are many guns that have more style: HK USP, Walther P99, Sig P228, Browning HP (now there's a golden oldie), etc.
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In real life... actually I don't really care about what's better in real life. Since this is a thread about weapons in the Fallout Universe I'll go with Mikael Grizzly, the 1911 fits the setting far better than the other pistols mentioned, just as the M14 would be better than the M16 etc. Of course it would be better not to have any real guns, rather extrapolations like a generic .45 automatic that's based on the 1911.
 
Well, in Fallout terms, I'd still rather go with the Browning HP, it has, as Mike put it "style, mahn", plus I feel more comfortable with 13 rounds.
I agree with the M14, tho. It's a really cool weapon and it fits nicely in the universe.
 
M1911 was in wasteland, pretty much the only real life weapon.

Oh, and I consider M1911 to be the best pistol for me, and besides, it's design has proven to be good for over 90 years. If something's good, why change it? [Yes, I know, someone will say now: So we should still poke ourselves with spears then, if something's good, then why change it?". Please dont do it.]
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
Well, in Fallout terms, I'd still rather go with the Browning HP, it has, as Mike put it "style, mahn", plus I feel more comfortable with 13 rounds.
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But the .45 is more Americana. There's a quote I read somewhere on the net, comparing WW2 to the gulf war IIRC, it said something about how in WW2 they used an american round the .45 and fought against enemies using 9mm, now they carry 9mm. Then it goes on about the helmets, how they fought, or made fun of the german helmets and now are wearing them. When someone says .45 I think of America, 9mm europe, it'd just fit the Fallout setting a lot better than the browning. As to having 13 rounds over 7 it would be nice for a change to have to scramble through the whole game hardly ever having enough ammo for a full magazine.
 
requiem_for_a_starfury said:
Of course it would be better not to have any real guns, rather extrapolations like a generic .45 automatic that's based on the 1911.
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Well, I could go for a little something like this:

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I know it's crappy but I made it in a hurry, you get the idea. It's a DAO evolution of the 1911. It can either have 13 .45 ACP rounds or 13 10mm rounds which seem to be working well in the Fallout universe.
And just to make requiem_for_a_starfury happy he only gets 5 bullets for the entire game. :mrgreen:
 
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
And just to make requiem_for_a_starfury happy he only gets 5 bullets for the entire game. :mrgreen:
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Well if it takes 13 rounds give me a maximum of 9 rounds to be fair, but with the condition they are in, at least two of them would misfire with a 50/50 chance of jamming the weapon. :mrgreen:
 
And blowing the gun up in your face? Don't you worry, old DDD thought of that and the gun is made out of superstrong alloys and shit so it won't blow your pretty face up. :mrgreen:
 
Oddly enough, that looks exactly like a M1911 Colt Commander with the spur chopped off for some reason. One has to hope you know how to work out a firing mechanism that doesn't fire it every tim the slide drops. ;) - Colt
 
Colt said:
One has to hope you know how to work out a firing mechanism that doesn't fire it every tim the slide drops.
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Of course I do! But I can't talk about it. :mrgreen:

And it looks nothing like that runt of a gun. It's way cooler for one thing.
 
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