Perception Fallout 4 SPECIAL video

Yeah, like the thousands of "ISO/Turnbased mod that will Fix Fallout 3".

Let us be honest, it will require to much work. More than the guys that actually enjoy the old styles of games are willing to throw in to such a project. Not that I am saying it is impossible, but if you think about it, why should someone spend no clue months of work in to a game that he doesn't even like to begin with? People adore Killaps mods for example, but he made those for a game that he already saw as a nice game and just added his flavor to it. I don't see the same really going for Fallout 4.

Some tried it with Skyrim and regardless how much I respect their effort I have to say that from the mods which tried to give Skyrims skills system more depth they all have a few serious flaws or simply could quite not deliver on the expectation. So I would not hold my breath with Fallout 4.

 

1) I made a slight error in vault mention, which I corrected right around the time you replied to me. Get over it. Latching onto an excuse to denounce anything I say, is exactly that - narcissistic.

2) I am not saying that the retcons do not exist - you are putting words into my mouth. What I am saying, is that the retcons do not detract from the evidence of vault experiments and their results seen since the 1st game. Observable information, such as each of the raider tribes that were a result of V15, being from a different ethnicity. Or when clicking on the V12 door for information, exploring the abandoned vault, and seeing the vault dwellers as ghouls in Necropolis.

 

Garoux, I get what those two guys are trying to explain here and really I am not the smartest guy around here. So please, don't be so obtuse.

 

Nothing really implied they were experiments at all. All the "evidence" is mostly digging up for justification and embracing the new retcon information. Also you just changed your line of argument, your initial premise was "proving me wrong about the Vault experiment not existing in FO1", did you read back on the wiki and realized I was right? They weren't experiments in FO1, they became so in FO2 and the details of the experiment weren't explained until the Fallout Bibles did it.

 

Here are a couple of questions:

1) Why did Vault 12 not have an Overseer office?

2) Why was Vault 15 the only vault, then and now, to throw together such a huge culture and ethnicity clash? The schism is confirmed in-game, and the various tribes are of a different ethnicity than the others.

I do agree that the retcons exist. That cannot be disputed - but the experiments did exist, and the results of said experiment can be observed in-game without the need of Fallout Bible explanations.

 

I never argued, at all, that the retcons/elaborations did not happen. My argument, is that even with the Fallout Bibles, the experiments are still seen and suggested towards in-game. You could argue that these in-game observations are coincidence after coincidence, but at that point, you are giving Interplay as little credit as you give Bethesda. In the end, the retcons/elaborations that the Fallout Bibles imposed, do not detract from previously established lore/canon. Retcons do not even inherently mean changes so drastic that the facts change entirely - all the retcons did, was elaborate upon what was happening, since so little was explained in the games.

 

I will have to delve back into the game when I get the chance - but when speaking to a couple of the residents of Shady Sands, their history is mentioned, which includes the schism, where they got their G.E.C.K. from, and where the raiders came from. That is how Shady Sands was even founded - through the use of V15's G.E.C.K.

 

You know what? I believe that you are right. I am sitting here and thinking about it, and collecting my thoughts, I seem to recall that while the Shady Sands/G.E.C.K. relation was confirmed by a guy living in Shady Sands, that this was during the events of Fallout 2.

 

If lack of skills is the largest problem with Fallout 4, I will count myself lucky, and applaud the impressive improvement in writing and world building of the dev team at Bethesda.

Adding skills back is likely to be quite a lot of work. Starting with the basic design and balancing, continuing with the actual additions. Depending on how perks and attributes have been implemented, it could possibly be implemented in GECK and scripting or require script extender support and a lot of manual changes.

 

-Watches vid-........did he just...took the magazine out of a weapon and the guy pulls the trigger with nothing coming out?...haven't the writers heard of "one in the chamber"? Pretty sure his head would have a nice hole if he attempted this.

 

Yeah I'm sure if they practice with weapons(like me ) they'd realize you have to chamber a round before firing, how the hell does that raider not know about firearm basics? Amateurs.

 

The animation really reminds me of turn-based combat from the originals though.

 

Regarding the Vaults experiments the Fallout Wiki has this to say:

"The vault experiment was an idea created by Tim Cain during the initial stages of Fallout 2 development."

So...yeah. And it was obvious anyway, there was absolutely nothing in FO1 that hinted at soemthing else behind the vaults.

 

[CHA 8]It's an open bolt, clearly.

 

I'd actually laugh my ass off if the Vault boy did the entire action with a smug look on his face, only to get bullet hole right between the eyes, with the narrator going. "Easy there, sport, REMEMBER! 'There's always one in the chamber!~'"

 

That would be satisfying and LOGICAL. They should of hired someone like you for the video.