Bodybag said:I can totally see your point - offering Fallout-themed shwag with a Fallout 3 collector's edition package is literally like rape.
No, trying to merchandise everything about it to make money is.
Picture of the collector's edition content, clothes coming ?
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No, trying to merchandise everything about it to make money is.
whirlingdervish
Brahmin Cavalry Commander
That "illegal" t-shirt looks much better than that ghastly bobblehead.
Looks nice. I guess I will try to get the Collector's Edition.
That's a pretty weird comment. I own the "Death Proof" Collector's Edition and never even considered filling the oil-can-style box with actual oil.SuAside said:
The Dutch Ghost said:
No, it seriously isn't. Whoever owns a prominent IP of any sort has the right to merchandise it and should do so, it's good business sense and it's good fun for fans of (their iteration of) the IP. Nor does it really remotely relate to how we feel about Bethesda's sequel.
In other words, this is one asstarded argument you guys are carrying here.
I had a chat with Sander about it, I guess the idea of merchandise wouldn't be that bad after all.
But I rather had seen products based on the original Fallout games, not Bethesda's Fallout 3.
The idea I dislike is that Bethesda might try to move Fallout in the direction of Halo and Warcraft, you know; books and comics that barely have any relevance with the games they are based on.
But I rather had seen products based on the original Fallout games, not Bethesda's Fallout 3.
The idea I dislike is that Bethesda might try to move Fallout in the direction of Halo and Warcraft, you know; books and comics that barely have any relevance with the games they are based on.
My worry Ausir is that one day we are going to see a load of books based on Fallout that barely have to do with it anymore, with Fallout 3 being the basic standard for all these stories.
Stories about how a BoS Paladin teams up with a Super Mutant, a Vault Dweller and Ghouls to take on the so much attempt of the Enclave to take over the wasteland.
I have read books and comics based on franchises and some are incredible badly written.
Stories about how a BoS Paladin teams up with a Super Mutant, a Vault Dweller and Ghouls to take on the so much attempt of the Enclave to take over the wasteland.
I have read books and comics based on franchises and some are incredible badly written.
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
If the argument was asstarded you wouldn't have to qualify "fun for fans of" with "their iteration of."
I liked the Harry Potter series of books and thought they were good as far as getting kids to read, and I thought J.K. Rowling had every right to authorize Harry Potter staplers, lawn ornaments, and skate board lubricant; but I also thought over-merchandising like that cheapened the franchise and was detrimental to the core material.
Bethesda hasn't gone that far yet, but they would if they could, and they have less right to do so than Rowling with Potter. Their ownership is strictly legal, seeing as they aren't the original creators of Fallout.
They're being bad shepherds of the core material, and this CE junk is more of that - their crass iteration.
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Brother None said:
Is this a reference to my position or something? Allow me to clarify: merchandising =/= rape (literally).
One side of it certainly appears to be!
aenemic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
so are these ready for pre-ordering? anyone know where in Sweden I can pre-order one?
Bodybag said:
Uh...you did understand that I am taking your side in this, right?
UniversalWolf said:
Not really.
Look, merchandising is kind of its own thing, and yes it does have the capability of damaging an IP on the long run. But that's impossible to foresee and irrelevant compared to the permanent damage Fallout 3 as a game is doing to the Fallout IP, anyway.
Bodybag
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Brother None said:
The way you quoted me and one other guy, then followed up with arguments debunking two positions, and concluded with "In other words, this is one asstarded argument you guys are carrying here." was a little misleading. I'll accept it as unintentional
Bodybag said:The way you quoted me and one other guy, then followed up with arguments debunking two positions, and concluded with "In other words, this is one asstarded argument you guys are carrying here." was a little misleading. I'll accept it as unintentional
If the point being discussed is really stupid, all people involved are carrying on an asstarded argument, regardless of if they're right or wrong.
's the internet.
's all asstarded
The Dutch Ghost said:
I can understand disliking merchandising, but you might want to be more careful choosing your examples. From my understanding, the Halo books lend a great deal of depth to the (lacking) story in the Halo games. Now that's a stupid argument when saying that the games have a great plot because supposedly it's contained in the books, but it does mean the books are a positive example of merchandising. I have myself read the Halo comic/art book thing, and it was actually pretty good. Not terribly great writing, but beautiful art from what i remember, and it tied into what I know of Halo pretty well. You're not wrong, there are lots of examples of bad merchandising out there, but you might want to attack certain Mountain Dew brands instead of the books and comics that actually do a pretty decent job of expanding their universe.
Hello terebikun,
I am not saying all merchandising is bad, sorry if that sounded like that first, but as you mentioned, there is a terrible load of really bad merchandising out there.
A while ago I checked out a lot of the Aliens, Predator and Indiana Jones comics and I discovered that in most cases they were terrible, in the Aliens/Predator's case constantly trying to rehash the stories of the movies and comic up with idiotic plot devices (An insane predator that leads tribals in South America?)
These days we see a lot more material being made on games but the writers barely have any understanding of the source material other than a bible that is handed to them.
I don't think stuff like the 'Brotherhood of Steel Saga', a trilogy telling of the origins and rise of the Brotherhood, or 'Rise of the Super Mutants' would be such a good idea.
I am not saying all merchandising is bad, sorry if that sounded like that first, but as you mentioned, there is a terrible load of really bad merchandising out there.
A while ago I checked out a lot of the Aliens, Predator and Indiana Jones comics and I discovered that in most cases they were terrible, in the Aliens/Predator's case constantly trying to rehash the stories of the movies and comic up with idiotic plot devices (An insane predator that leads tribals in South America?)
These days we see a lot more material being made on games but the writers barely have any understanding of the source material other than a bible that is handed to them.
I don't think stuff like the 'Brotherhood of Steel Saga', a trilogy telling of the origins and rise of the Brotherhood, or 'Rise of the Super Mutants' would be such a good idea.
Slaughter Manslaught
Vault Senior Citizen
I would like to see a Fallout book or even comic, as long as both are well written and respect the Fallout Universe. I would like to see comics showing other places were we dind't see the Fallout games, like Texas, Canada or even in China.