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Dayglow Drifter said:
Out of curiosity how do you think undocumented migrants affect people going through the legal citizenship process?

Do you think there are people getting told "Yeah we know you were a year from getting citizenship but we just heard that 1,000 Hondurans made it in last night so now you have to return to the back of the line"
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Because it literally screams that cheating works. And cheating HAS worked.

Latinos are the second biggest population segment in the U.S. That means more latinos looking out FOR latinos and pushing pro latino migrant policies. Democracy is a numbers game and latinos are playing a serious one.

Latino comes illegally. If he fathers a child, that child gets benefits as a U.S. citizen. That child inevitably votes dem/leftist as he wants his dad legalised. The cycle continues. Not to mention, now that the illegal has a family, deporting him is now a public relations nightmare with leftists screaming we are destroying families.

Secondly, latinos have an easier time getting in by virtue of proximity so even within the illegal game, the stats are skewed in favor of latinos vs illegals from lets us say Africa.

If the left really believes in fairness, than why not reform immigration laws and re-institute quotas? We can put in a fair and controlled number of applicants every year. Make the process of getting accepted easier. But certain elements do not like quotas and playing fair as we all have seen already.
 
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Morgan_ said:
Seems oversimplified, no? There are a lot of Latinos that are against illegal immigration themselves.
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Sure but only because now that they are LEGAL, illegal immigration hurts them. Very hypocritical but understandable. Mexican illegals fucking hate SA illegals as they compete with each other. The Mexicans know the caravans draw increased and unwanted attention to them and put folks like Trump and Bills like SB 1070 AZ into action.

Keep in mind that while spanish speaking, tribalism is alive and well. Cubans get preferred immigration status so they would NOT be happy with more Mexicans getting in illegally and competing for jobs.
 
Dayglow Drifter said:
Lol large numbers of latinos regularly vote Republican
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To play Devil's Advocate (sorry) whilst this is true and there is a large amount of religious and conservative Latinos, many of these are Cuban and despite being ethnically lumped together they're of a very different outline than immigrants from the southern border.
 
DarkCorp said:
because now that they are LEGAL, illegal immigration hurts them.
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How? Other than "because it sets a bad example" because that's not a quantifiable point, that's just you saying that a certain policy is bad because you think it makes people FEEL a certain way.

Atomic Postman said:
whilst this is true and there is a large amount of religious and conservative Latinos, many of these are Cuban
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This isn't true at all, there are loads of religious (either catholic or evangelical) and conservative latinos all over the Southwest that aren't even remotely Cuban. Look at some of the polling numbers that Trump pulled with Hispanics, Hispanic men especially, it would be impossible for the majority of those to be Cuban-Americans.
 
Dayglowdrifter said:
This isn't really evidence, it's just your feelings.
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It is in the census numbers. It is in the fucking news when every single discussion on immigration inevitable comes down to the 'brown', in black and brown people being affected by racism. Every discussion on making things easier essentially favors latinos as I have pointed out already. Notice how COVID as a virus has no politics but latino race hustlers make it a sticking point to crow how victimised their people are?

Dayglowdrifter said:
Lol large numbers of latinos regularly vote Republican
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Explained above.
 
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DarkCorp said:
It is in the census numbers.
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What is? The proof that illegal immigration hurts legal latino migrants? If it's really right there it shouldn't be too difficult for you to provide an example. If it's really that obvious then it shouldn't be hard for you to pull something of the census website really fast that completely destroys my commie libtard argument.

DarkCorp said:
It is in the fucking news when every single discussion on immigration inevitable comes down to the 'brown', in black and brown people being affected by racism.
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More feelings as evidence, I see.

DarkCorp said:
Explained above.
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No you didn't. You say latino migrants vote Republican once they have legal citizenship because illegal immigration "hurts them" and when I asked for evidence you just listed "The Census" and the fact that people talk about racism on the news.
 
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Hot take: "Voter fraud" is actually quite prevalent it just takes the form of misinformation, closing pol locations and gerrymandering. Any guesses as to who benefits from these the most, especially closing pol centers and gerrymandering?
 
Are we really arguing that hispanics mostly vote republican after being legalized? Did we forget how well that worked out for the republican party after Reagan turned California into a blue state forever? Trump may have scrounged a few extra percentages in the minority votes but the bulk of republican voters have always been white men.
 
Malpais Dominus said:
Are we really arguing that hispanics mostly vote republican after being legalized? Did we forget how well that worked out for the republican party after Reagan turned California into a blue state forever? Trump may have scrounged a few extra percentages in the minority votes but the bulk of republican voters have always been white men.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting they're majority Republican but suggesting Latinos are a voting monolith is provably false. Though, as I said before a lot of that split comes from Cubans.
 
Republicans were bragging about how many minorities were voting conservative on this very thread around 2 months ago and it STILL wasn't enough. lol
 
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