Political Spergatory or How I Learned To Love /pol

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by SquidWard, May 25, 2020.

  1. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    Back to business as usual though. I'm sorry but Biden saying woman can no longer have sports for themselves is the funniest shit ever. people are gonna have to scroll to like the 3rd page before you find a real one holding a record.
     
  2. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    I haven't been keeping up with the news lately can someone fill me in on this please? Link would be good.
    I'd actually like to know since I'm pretty athletic myself and pop my head into the sports from time to time. Mostly mtb and soccer.
     
  3. Aurelius Of Phoenix

    Aurelius Of Phoenix Psued.

    Mar 9, 2018
    I wonder when some troon is gonna crush some chick to death in the ring.
     
  4. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    One of the first things Biden did was make it so Women can't have sports to themselves and have to have Trannies play with them and that they are also eligible for female scholarships or the school will lose federal funding.
    the closet we got is when Fallon Fox broke that chicks skull open in a MMA fight.
     
  5. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

    97
    Jun 1, 2020
    Just realized that Trump is essentially the Republican Jimmy Carter but less likable lol

    Little did they know the glass ceiling they would be smashing would be their own craniums.
     
  6. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
     
  7. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Which conflict was started by Obama? As much as I disslike him and some of his policies but I can't remember that Obama started a war or large conflict. We should also not forget that Obama inherited two major conflicts. The war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq which also left the whole midle east in shambles due to the Bush administration. In fact I can still remember how the Republicans constantly held it against Obama that he did not enough(!) in Syriah. Remember that one? ISIS is Obamas fault! Some people here really have very small long term memory it seems.


    When it comes to Trump. It's a bit difficult.

    What Trump did was throwing land mines around. For example the decision to which left the Kurds in the dust which allowed Turkey to start their military campaign in Syriah - creating more refugees in the process and guess where they end up. This will lead to issues in the future because when it comes to foreign policy the Kurds have been very long allies to the United States in the middle east.

    Second Trump almost started single handedly a war with Iran. It was Iran which backed down. Not the US. Hate Soleimani or like him. But assasinating him was the most extreme option and would be comparable to Iran killing a high ranking US official. They could have retaliated in a fashion which would have left the United States no other option but to attack as well.

    It's frightening how the Iranian regime was the actually ... more level headed one here. Even Irak is seeing the United States very differently know. A government that's actually backed up by the US troops.

    Or Trumps Twitter feud with Kim Jong Un. How was that any kind of peace process? Besides North Korea still has nucelar weapons. Is still as dangerous as it ever was. And is likely expanding their programm. The Korean Border is still one of the most militarised zones in the world. Go figure.

    The many western Allies Trump directly or indirectly alienated. Good luck with future plans on foreign policy and finding the assistance here. And no the United States can not always go without the support of their allies. Even Republicans understand that much when they said, hold on wait a min. Trump wants to pull out troops from Germany? Holy shit!

    Outside of that Drone Attacks also happend under Trump. It was even expanded.
    Trump Escalates Killer Drone War and No One Seems to Care | The American Conservative


    One could almost get the feeling that America being in a constant conflict has almost nothing to do with what kind of President is currently runing ... But it surely is a great tool to discredit a new one.

    The United States has seen so many smaller and bigger conflicts over the last 50 years that it's really hard not to find someone who has been a part of it. Democrats or Republicans.

    I had some small hopes here that it could actually change something. But it turns out, yes it is. Rubbing shoulders with some of the worst Dictators while giving long standing allies the could one is well a bad thing. I am not saying he shouldn't have tried. But it became pretty obvious very quickly that North Korea was just playing with him. But since Trump is not the type to actually "learn" from his mistakes he counted it like a victory. And here we are. North Korea still a nuclear power while the US allies in the South Pacific now have to ask them self, can we still count on the United States as a partner? I do not know how that's going to make the United States more safe.

    And no one wanted a nuclear war in the 1960s and yet you had the Cuban crisis. Sometimes it's not so much about what people want but about what happens. Certain events can lead to unforseen consequences which then force all the involved parties to act. It's like the falling domino pieces which always leda to a bigger one droping. It's easier to start wars then to prevent them. It is what they often feared about the Cold War. Mc Namara speaks about it in his documentary "The Fog Of War" - pretty great to watch it!

    *Edit

    There he (Namara) for example mentions how many people in the US high command believed, the Soviets would never go to nuclear war over Cuba and thus they could savely go in, full military support and take everything over before the Soviets could even act. But the reality was which was revealed only years later, there have already been missiles stationed in Cuba when Le May and others pressured Kenedy for an invasion on Cuba. And the officials in Cuba which had the oversight over the nuclear missiles, Soviet officers, had the order to lunch them in case of a US military attack. And now imagine how that would have played out if the US decided to invade Cuba.

    Like I said. No one really wants war. But it is very easy to missjudge the intentions and capabilities of your opponent. Errors in missjudgement can lead to very severe consquences. And Trump is not the kind of person that understands this kind of subtleties.

    What Trump did with the assasination could have easily lead to a war with Iran even if that was not his intention.
     
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  8. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    Maybe the solution is to keep mens and womens sports but also have an "open league" where men and women can be on the same teams? Also, why not just keep womens athletic scholarships intact and just include a trans athletics scholarship along side those? You'd inrease the number of scholarships available which is good?
     
  9. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    check out the transphobe.
     
  10. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

    97
    Jun 1, 2020
    Because that would be acknowledging that the whole thing is a farce. Having a freak show league could be entertaining in a dystopian societal collapse kind of way though.
     
  11. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
     
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  12. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    If anyone thinks that is transphobic then, to me, they are just being unresonable as they are still recognized and are ensured that there are scholarships exclusivley for them too.
    I don't know about freaks but an open league seems like a good solution. Might be an issue in lockerooms though >_>
     
  13. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    There is hope for you yet but I can tell you exactly what that would be met with. Why would they need their own scholarship, they are real women.
     
  14. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Why not a Transgender league?

    Might be difficult to get enough people though ... and I am not joking.
     
  15. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    Yeah, that would be a retort for some no doubt. I guess I'd just say that they are trans women and that there is nothing wrong with that. You even get your own exclusive and equivalent scholarships. Seem like a push into womens spaces honestly. Didn't grow up a woman but will be given all the street cred if you say you are female in your 30's :whatever:
    To gew apparently. That's why I was thinking an open league might work best but the counter would probably be that they cant excel there and some would still want to be on womens teams specifically. Seem at times there is no real solution and this is largley a time wasting distractuon for the left imo. :shrug:

    Edit: nvm you said it yourself.
     
  16. Dayglow Drifter

    Dayglow Drifter Mildly Dipped

    525
    Sep 25, 2018
    It is genuinely funny how much trans people bother some of you
     
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  17. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    We are gonna need a list of these transphobes, pronto. D squared you just volunteered for the job.
     
  18. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    It would only bother me if I were on a sports team and got pushed out of a scholarship if some guy decides to transition. That would would be it though. Just have an open league with scholarships for trans people.
    Seems to be the best solution for the most people that I can tell.
     
  19. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I thought the exact same thing.

    But then when you think about it, it makes sense why some people get all upset.

    1. It has zero effect on their (personal) lifes.
    2. Everyone can have an oppinion about it. No knowledge required.
     
  20. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

    97
    Jun 1, 2020
    Some haggard old troon better not try to bother me or they'll get a Joe Rogan 2 legged take down.