Political Spergatory or How I Learned To Love /pol

Hoarse D. Wormer said:
Well the book itself is pretty high-octane koolaid. It's the conclusion of the "end-of-time" by hitting a ceiling with the existential problem of existence. So then what happens is an enlightened return to the cyclical nature of eternity where all class is transcended by choice participation of the warrior and priest classes who rebuild society based upon a post-liberalism enlightened-green puritanism. It's dangerous because the regression is dependent upon what culture this takes place in. For example, Russia going backwards in history is probably going to experience a dark age. The United States will also regress into a dark age.

However it also shows us how entrenched we are in Neo-Liberal/Marxist ideology, since this is only a regression from that perspective. It draws distinct barriers between how religion and spirituality will function in the new age as opposed to how it was organized and understood in the past. It highlights an element of unappreciated progressivism in religion and the church in general that bridges the gap between these times of social change and collapse.

My biggest question is oh OK but what are we going to do about all of the nuclear weapons? I can understand that my spiritual experiences changed my ways of looking at the world from my neo-liberal thinking of the past, but what about those who have not experienced this isolation from society to my extent?

I agree with lots of the core principles that are being played around with here as I too have witnessed the social phenomena as Dugin has, but I am still always suspicious of people who "Speak for everyone."


WHAT I WILL SAY IS

All of his books are BANNED on AMAZON and he's not allowed to visit the U.S.

So whatever it is, the land of feedumb is scared of it. Or atleast the liberal technocrat deepstate are scared of it.
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Morgan_ said:
So you're proposing that the Harkonnen's should pay no taxes?
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Which Harkonnens? I doubt I'll ever watch the new Dune films; I have only seen the first 18 minutes of the first [Bay] Transformers film; as I walked out of an IMAX showing.

No... The Harkonnens were a political tool of the Emperor; you mentioned "free to the child", speaking of a parent's last aid to their children.

*Obviously there are trust funds that unlock with age, or other condition, but even those are the same where the family does either their best (or what they may consider the minimal least :wtf: ) to provide their offspring with a better [or perhaps just easier] start in life.

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How do you mean (about the Harkonnens)? You'll have to spell it out for me if it was not in the books, or the Lynch movie.
 
Gizmojunk said:
Which Harkonnens? I doubt I'll ever watch the new Dune films; I have only seen the first 18 minutes of the first [Bay] Transformers film; as I walked out of an IMAX showing.

No... The Harkonnens were a political tool of the Emperor; you mentioned "free to the child", speaking of a parent's last aid to their children.

*Obviously there are trust funds that unlock with age, or other condition, but even those are the same where the famoly does either their best (or what they may consider the minimal least :wtf: ) to provide their offspring with a better [or perhaps just easier] start in life.

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How do you mean (about the Harkonnens)? You'll have to spell it out for me if it was not in the books, or the Lynch movie.
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You might be taking Transformers too seriously!

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*This wasn't me (it's a tv show to sell toys), but the new films focus on humanity in light of the cybertronians, as opposed humanity getting underfoot in the series proper.

The plots always centered around the Decepticon agenda; the people were bugs to them (except to Prime and most autobots... but even then, they were mostly in the way, or used as hostages against the autobots; almost always better had they not been there to screw things up).
 
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I mean even as a normie who only watched the original series I know that and I know that is why these new movies suck, but they are watchable due to being well made - they are well made popcorn trash. The first one was actually pretty fucking entertaining but maybe I was just miserable in the Army working long hours at the time. Even the last two shitty ones with Marky Mark were entertaining. I say this as a person who turned them on TBS and watched them at some point while cooking dinner and walking back and forth. They are digital noise for the modern era except now for everyone instead of just kids.
 
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Hoarse D. Wormer said:
Dugin
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He doesn’t seem to be a very interesting thinker imo. Everything he says has been said 100 times before 100 years ago. Culture war against the modern world and so on, among other militant intellectual musings.

Perfect thing to attract socially struggling males. It will only harm them further.
 
Morgan_ said:
He doesn’t seem to be a very interesting thinker imo. Everything he says has been said 100 times before 100 years ago. Culture war against the modern world and so on, among other militant intellectual musings.

Perfect thing to attract socially struggling males. It will only harm them further.
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Actually you're too much of an idiot to appreciate it so please shit on me some more and never add anything useful to the conversation like a typical twat.
 
Hoarse D. Wormer said:
Actually you're too much of an idiot to appreciate it so please shit on me some more and never add anything useful to the conversation like a typical twat.
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That wasn’t supposed to be aimed at you.

I’ve been curious about him as well, I just don’t like him is the conclusion I came to. I haven’t read his books either so maybe I am ignorant in my assessment, but I’m not sure I really need to based on what I do know.

Anything Dugin has to say seems like a misuse of Revolt Against the Modern World. I could be wrong, but I am of the opinion that Dugin takes inspiration from Evola for his own goals as well as those of his government’s objectives. He’s interesting, but just another government agent. Just Russian instead of American.

Also a bit of an accelerationist which I don’t really care for. The exact kind of person who should not have the influence or access to power that he has.

He gets touted as Putin’s brain, but I don’t buy it. An advisor maybe, but not a Rasputin figure. Simply because Putin is far more cunning and ruthless than the tsar was as far as I can tell. He’s a strong man type and that tends to appeal to young guys with issues since they seem to see themselves as not being strong or that there is something wrong with them.

That’s the gist of my perspective.
 
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Yes, I agree with the assessment that western journalists are all over his ass to claim he's this or that.

Conservatives in Russia are primarily concerned with stability and haven't had a cultural revolution to completely destroy their culture unlike other former communist countries. This is because of all of the religious mysticism in Russian culture having a strong enough hold on the psychology of the nation that it hasn't fallen down the rabbit-hole of an identity crisis like China or The West has.

It's primarily the focus of interviews with Dugin that the western journalist has no concept whatsoever of what Dugin is talking about and doesn't want to know what he's talking about because "Russia scary and they talking about scary stuff, our liberal democracy must always prevail no matter the methods no matter the cost.

Dugin picks apart things as they work in the real world, not as we imagine them. Like the rule of minority over majority being the end goal of democracy since the fear is that a majority will cause populism and thus another Hitler.

Key thing for me is that his perspective lines up with what I've experienced, that insitituions themselves cannot play the role of god.

CONSEVATIVES AND RUSSIA PLOTTING TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT OH NO

Morgan_ said:
Also a bit of an accelerationist which I don’t really care for. The exact kind of person who should not have the influence or access to power that he has.
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I don't even know what you mean by accelerationist in this context. Accelerate sales and profits? Accelerate the end of time? Accelerate my boner?



 
We should be happy about Fox News. We have enough Refugess in Europe. We can't also deal with fleeing US Americans.
 
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