Pro life or Pro choice

Millim said:
Yeah... I can also say that capitalism is the sharing of misery.
It's an unsustainable system.
It relies on marketing and manipulation for people to buy products that they don't exactly need, to increase the profits of companies for their own circle jerking sessions while exploiting both the worker and consumer.
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All this crap about worker exploitation and capitalists harming the working class etc is bullshit circulated by lazy people.
Workers can get anywhere they want. Hard work and thrift makes a millionaire.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
All this crap about worker exploitation and capitalists harming the working class etc is bullshit circulated by lazy people.
Workers can get anywhere they want. Hard work and thrift makes a millionaire.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You realize that poor people work harder then most well off people? Course not, they're just lazy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-w-orlando/the-rich-arent-rich-becau_b_4791626.html
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/it-s-the-idle-rich-who-are-lazy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cans-think-poor-people-dont-work-hard-enough/
 
Dr Fallout said:
You realize that poor people work harder then most well off people? Course not, they're just lazy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-w-orlando/the-rich-arent-rich-becau_b_4791626.html
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/it-s-the-idle-rich-who-are-lazy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cans-think-poor-people-dont-work-hard-enough/
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Ah, the solution to all our problems, beat the rich up. You do realise they provide most of the tax revenue?
I have a friend who went from not being able to buy a pub lunch who is now on doctors money. As I said hard work and thrift makes a millionaire.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
If you watched more than a minute you might see where he is going.
Do you have any actual arguments for socialism other than MUH WORKERZ.
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Yes I do.
Socialism is much more of a social conscience, health care, the poor, the elderly, the sick, emergency services, progressive views on gender and sexuality are all things I think should be seen to.

Capitalism I find is the absence of that, after a certain age, you're considered no longer of any use and the state pretty much wants you dead, same with the disabled.

Selling off things like the NHS and the police to private companies leading them to have their money cut.

Crime being tackled in a rather inhuman way, I'm completely against things like the death penalty and just sticking people in a cell to rot in their own shit, especially for minor offences.

The whole idea from right wing idealogies that our country is better than yours because of... Borders?

I could go on, but does a socially fair world where everyone has equal opportunities and where everyone is looked after sound like the spread of misery?
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
Ah, the solution to all our problems, beat the rich up. You do realise they provide most of the tax revenue?
I have a friend who went from not being able to buy a pub lunch who is now on doctors money. As I said hard work and thrift makes a millionaire.
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What a nice strawman! I totally told you to beat the rich up.

Also, anecdotes are better then cold hard facts obviously.
 
Millim said:
Yes I do.
Socialism is much more of a social conscience, health care, the poor, the elderly, the sick, emergency services
Selling off things like the NHS and the police to private companies leading them to have their money cut.
where everyone is looked after sound like the spread of misery?
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Ever heard of money? It doesn't grow on trees.
Dr Fallout said:
I totally told you to beat the rich up.
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The articles did.
 
Dr Fallout said:
For example?

Also you ignored the fact that the evidence shows that working hard won't make you rich.
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I read the articles by *deep breaths* Huffington Post *uncontrollable laughter*. What drivel.
Anyway, I cant be bothered to get into a discussion about how socialism is better than capitalism and vice versa, I have other things to do.
I'll let PJW do the rest
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
Ever heard of money? It doesn't grow on trees.
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Then why are the rich getting richer off of money that could be used for better things?
We have companies not paying their taxes, MPs taking out large sums of money for expenses, bonuses on banks, tax cuts for the rich, etc.

Meanwhile, we have rising food banks, NHS being sold off, the pound falling due to brexit.

You're right, money doesn't grow on trees, but it's also a concept, something to regulate resources fairly so that people don't have too much and hog it all for themselves... Sadly that's what it's become.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
I read the articles by *deep breaths* Huffington Post *uncontrollable laughter*. What drivel.
Anyway, I cant be bothered to get into a discussion about how socialism is better than capitalism and vice versa, I have other things to do.
I'll let PJW do the rest
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Sorry if my double posting (I'm on my phone) but PJW is a massive twat.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
I read the articles by *deep breaths* Huffington Post *uncontrollable laughter*. What drivel.
Anyway, I cant be bothered to get into a discussion about how socialism is better than capitalism and vice versa, I have other things to do.
I'll let PJW do the rest
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So obviously you can ignore the other sources, of course.

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Like that's better?
 
something to regulate resources fairly so that people don't have too much and hog it all for themselves
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What an idea. I haven't got any money so everyone else should be dragged down to my level.
bonuses on banks, tax cuts for the rich
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Casually forgetting they pay most of the tax revenue.
Sadly that's what it's become.
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Its called human nature. You'll never change it.
Socialism is basically an ineffective version of capitalism.
 
Millim said:
Sorry if my double posting (I'm on my phone) but PJW is a massive twat.
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Didn't you post a video refuting every point PJW makes in the very video Doomsday just posted? I'm going to go look for it (because it has a lot to do with abortions).
Doomsdayprepper said:
What an idea. I haven't got any money so everyone else should be dragged down to my level.
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What's your idea? You haven't got any money so starve?
 
Izak said:
Didn't you post a video refuting every point PJW makes in the very video Doomsday just posted? I'm going to go look for it (because it has a lot to do with abortions).
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I'm probably going to ignore it. Its by some acne teen with socialist/communist posters on his wall.
Anyway, I gotta go.
 
Izak said:
Didn't you post a video refuting every point PJW makes in the very video Doomsday just posted? I'm going to go look for it (because it has a lot to do with abortions).
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