FearMonkey
Vault Senior Citizen
This is incorrect. Kotaku pretty much lied about it. Patches will be free.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
PS4 mod support update
Vault Senior Citizen
This is incorrect. Kotaku pretty much lied about it. Patches will be free.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
I don't know if its actually the legs there creppy and all but the batery on the head is pretty fucked up too
0wing
Все умрут, а я волномут
Fallout 3 is basically the worst game for Playstation 3 ever which can go as bad as breaking disk reading or casting YLODs, btw. Not to mention problems with aiming and audio shit.
Mods? Who needs them? Bethesda already sinned enough here.
Mods? Who needs them? Bethesda already sinned enough here.
For me playing fallout 3 on ps3 I din't actually get that many glitches but ovi everyone is different. I have crashes though but i saved often so it was't to bad. After i downloaded FNV DLC it got really laggy for me could't open cetain exertiors or interiors but i did have 150 hours plus on it
Prone Squanderer
A bit of a Sillius Soddus.
I can't remember if I suffered many glitches on Fallout 3, I think freezing was the main issue. I did have the same issue with downloading FNV's DLC, things lagged, more freezes. And there was also a glitch where if I had already had 2 characters saved the game would get stuck on trying to make another. Doc Mitchell wouldn't trigger the tests after sitting down on the couch.
Both fo3 and FNV are my favorite game of all time though so yeah i don;t mind. And honestly in my mind there are more glitches in fallout 4 considering al lthe bugs that go on with the settlement feature. I have to save so often and try and fix some many of bugs in there hours trying to get a settlement right just for a supply line disappear
0wing
Все умрут, а я волномут
I remember lots of butthurt around F3 regarding PS3 and other way around in late 00s.
Well, New Vegas is richer on environment, especially DLCs, so the problems are inevitable.
Goji
BigAngryLizard
Yeah, I definitely feal for that. FO4 really spat in the face of the fallout series and shows that Beth really doesn't care about fallout.
At least Arkane and Id are still gold.
Chud
Still Mildly Glowing
One thing I'll say about New Vegas, that yes it does have lag issues, but I never died from bumping past a car like I did in Fallout 4.
Prone Squanderer
A bit of a Sillius Soddus.
Wait you can be killed by bumping into cars?
NotAcasul
meanie
Yeah, Creation Engine physics bug.
SarcasticGoodGuy
*R O T T E N*
Wasn't there a bug where if you put something under a car and moved it the car would move as well, since it's not a static item?
Zyax
Salt Powered Robot
Placing the blame in the correct place is also a good rule to live by.
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Deleted member 93956
Guest
Indeed, as you put blame Sony
See, if, say, Microsoft says that the iPhone X will be compatible with Windows Phone, and a year later, Apple states "fuck no, why would I compromise my property for your shit that you can't even get to work properly", but Microsoft boldly points at Apple while making a smug face, who are all the poor bastards that craved for that to happen should rage towards?
Zyax
Salt Powered Robot
There is no evidence that Sony didn't know about this before the announcement, and statements made by Bethesda indicate that they did, therefore it can be reasonably concluded that Sony is at fault.
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Deleted member 93956
Guest
Wow, call a court, we have an expert in arguments here.
So you believe a terribly blamey excuse (Sony did it), just becouse they stated it.
I state that i didn't drive over a dozen people while being drunk, so any damages are (?'s) fault. Ciao!
DirtyOldShoe
Some kind of lucky
Zyax doesn't use logic of fact, which if I'm not mistaken, would make them robosexual.
CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
I can understand giving Bethesda benefit of the doubt but completely blaming Sony for this without considering Bethesda's involvement based on Bethesda's words is just as bad. Not sure why Zyax thinks that everyone else is being unreasonable for giving Sony the benefit of the doubt and acknowledging Bethesda's possible role in this situation.
IIRC Zyax seems to enjoy being a snide contrarian for the sake of being contrary around here at times from the number of times I've seen him posting here. A rather odd behavior to take but Zyax seems to persist for some reason. Best to ignore Zyax if Zyax becomes more unreasonable or illogical.
Brivoo
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If you're going to give Bethesda the benefit of the doubt, then at least have the decency to extend the same courtesy to Sony.
The only thing we know so far is that Bethesda's released a statement and Sony hasn't. Both companies will have their own best interests in mind, but the significant difference is that Sony has absolutely no reason to give a fuck. It's not like they promised mods on their console and even if they had, it's hardly a loss on their part; Fallout 4's sales are gone and done and even if Skyrim: Resurrection doesn't sell they'll probably hardly register it.
Bethesda, on the other hand, did promise those features, and one of their recent releases even makes it an entire selling point; even if Sony was to blame, there's no way they wouldn't lie about it.
Not telling the whole truth is pretty much their thing, if you haven't noticed.
Bethesda's reputation's been taking some serious hits as of late; if they don't recuperate soon, they might lose a significant portion of their income.
Either way, if we only take into account what Bethesda stated, it still seems pretty vague. They've asserted that Sony didn't want to give the players total freedom, which I presume translates into concerns over IPs and mature content; however, Bethesda did the exact same thing if I recall correctly, so I doubt it's that. It's also worded a bit too favourably for them in my humble opinion, so I'm rather suspicious of it all.
As for the "strong source" shown earlier in the thread, I can sort of understand how that deal wouldn't work out. Quality control for every single mod would be an absolute pain, especially if it's unpaid; I'm pretty sure Bethesda wouldn't want to risk paid mods again right now when the entire reason people wanted them was that they were gratis.
I also understand that Sony would want some sort of standard, presumably predicting that if any problems arose, they would be the ones to get flooded with complaints. It's a bit of a deadlock situation, but it can't be all that there was to it.
It's interesting to note that Sony seems to understand the complications of modding consoles better than Bethesda does, but I digress. That's just my bitterness acting up again.
Zyax
Salt Powered Robot
Nice misrepresentation there, you're good at that I suppose. If what Bethesda said was a lie (in this case slander) then Sony could, and should, sue them for it, or at the very least should make a statement saying their reasons, whatever they may be, you know, so they don't look bad?
Sony hasn't released any kind of statement as of yet, all they have to do, is do just that. Another thing is that if Sony actually didn't do any of what Bethesda said, then a case could be made against Bethesda from Sony that they are liable for slander.
And if anyone is surprised that a company acts in their own interest, then I have no words for them.
So not agreeing with everyone is being snide. All that can be reasonably asked of them is for them to make an offical statement on the matter. A good number of fans wanted this feature, and from the information we have, Sony is the one not allowing it, for unclear reasons. All they would have to say is "it is for QA concerns", or what have you, and that would be the end of it.
But sure, I suppose that's an unreasonable view of things, to some people.
EDIT: from what I heard part of Sony's issue has to do with how the mods can be activated, due to how the implemented DRM and console security work, and for the game to have mods the way Bethesda wanted, they would have had to go around this security, which is no doubt a valid concern.
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