Racism: Why?

Getting back on topic, i remember reading a theory that racism developed as part of the survival instinct back when humans were at a tribal level (and before). Someone who looked different would represent an unknown, and therfore was a threat. Obviously at that time people didn't travel as much and someone with a physically different appearance would be much more unusual.

That said, it should not be a part of a modern civilisation.
 
Nobody is born racist, its taught to people by thier parents, or fabricated by people wanting to blame someone else for thier problems.

EDIT: By the way, in you original post, the forum you gave a link to: People who take the bible literally like that piss me off.
 
There are more needless burdens from our ancestors, like will to increase physical strenght or to eat as much as you can. Strength and dexterity were needed tu hunt and to survive. Now human doesn't need to hunt, though there are some jobs which involve strength as an important factor. In fact, we can't get rid of this because there are people who enjoy being strong (that's a part of the burden) and current law guarantees freedom.

The only fair way is specialization or classes, you say, but it's not as good from the same reason.

Racism is a kind of discrimination. A discrimination means someone likes some people and dislikes others. There are people who discriminate gay. Most of population discriminate criminalls - they don't like them. And now the piont - I think almost everyone prefers his family than others or the ones he likes than the ones he doesn't.

Discrimination is against law, so everyone should be in jail now.

The conclusion is we can't get rid of racism.
 
You are typical multiculture religious fanatic wacko who will suck dick if it is said on tv.
Wow. That's typical. I always thought I was an agnostic critical thinker. I must've been wrong all along... :roll:

You belong to peasent class you will worship niggers or put jews in oven if it is said so and you will do it with smile on your face peasent
And that's coming from someone who can't even spell decently. How...quaint.

Dont think everyone belongs in peasent class becouse i will genocide when someone will try enslave me and i will do it smile on my face.
YOu have a really..interesting way of making a point, you know?

500 years ago you would have burn heretics alive, peasant.
Thank you for enlightening me on this subject...
 
Sander said:
They don't say there aren't races, they say that those races don't matter one bit. Noone can deny the fact that there are people with different skin color, they just say that it doesn't matter one bit, and they are right.

No they don't

There aren't any human races apart from Homo Sapiens Sapiens. To say so is to misunderstand the term "race" in any of its forms. Anthropologically speaking, there definitely aren't different human races. Biologically speaking there aren't any either.

There are tribes, yes, and these tribes have different skin colours, heights or whatever, this does not in any way constitute a different race anymore than different breeds of dogs (like tard mentioned) constitue different races.
 
You're confusing the term race with the term species.
Dictionary:

Race:
Biology.
An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.


Species:
Biology.
A fundamental category of taxonomic classification, ranking below a genus or subgenus and consisting of related organisms capable of interbreeding. See table at taxonomy.
An organism belonging to such a category, represented in binomial nomenclature by an uncapitalized Latin adjective or noun following a capitalized genus name, as in Ananas comosus, the pineapple, and Equus caballus, the horse.


Pwnzored. ;)
 
Anthropologically, there are no human races, period.

From one perspective; biologically, human races are undefined and hence for definition's sake do not exist. To say "there are multiple races which can not be defined" scientifically is basically accepting the concept of all of humanity being a melting-pot and thus, while doubtlessely having races, doesn't have races that can be defined and thus for all practical purposes has no races. Because no human strain of people has ever been split from another long enough to be defined, without a doubt or misconception, as a race. Here's what the History and Geography of Human Genes (1996) had to say on it:

"The classification into races has proved to be a futile exercise for
reasons that were already clear to Darwin. Human races are still extremely
unstable entities in the hands of modern taxonomists, who define from 3 to
60 or more races. To some extent, this latitude depends on the personal
preference of taxonomists, who may choose to be 'lumpers' or 'spliters.'
Although there is no doubt that there is only one human species, there are
clearly no objective reasons for stopping at any particular level of
taxonomic splitting. In fact, the analysis we carry out in chapter 2 for
purposes of evolutionary study shows that the level at which we stop our
classification is completely arbitrary. Explanations are statistical,
geographic, and historica. Statistically, genetic variation within clusters
is large compared witht hat between clusters.
All populations or population clusters overlap when single genes are
considered, and in almost all populations, all alleles are present but in
different frequencies. No single gene is therefore sufficient for
classifying human populations into systematic categories." p. 19

However, because of the melting-pot-thing, the human race is unefineable in the biological sense outside of certain strains of taxonomy:

"A race is a biological subspecies, or variety of a species, consisting of a more or less distinct population with anatomical traits that distinguish it clearly from other races. This biologist's definition does not fit the reality of human genetic variation today. We are biologically an extremely homogenous species. As a matter of fact, all humans today are 99.9% genetically identical, and most of the variation that does occur is in the difference between males and females and our unique personal traits. This homogeneity is very unusual in the animal kingdom. Even our closest relatives, the chimpanzees have 2-3 times more genetic variation than people. Orangutans have 8-10 times more variation.

It is now clear that our human "races" are cultural creations, not biological realities. The concept of human biological races is based on the false assumption that anatomical traits, such as skin color and specific facial characteristics, cluster together in single distinct groups of people. They do not. There are no clearly distinct "black", "white", or other races."

http://anthro.palomar.edu/ethnicity/ethnic_1.htm

The subject is sensitive one because of the obvious problem of racism. Anthropologists have accepted that there are no human races. Biologists have their debates. However, whether or not you accept the existance of human races (which many biologists do not), the problem states way above in which taxonomy can't make a definitive decision on human races erradicates any possibility of debating the subject from "scientific grounds"

PS: if you'd notice, by the way, I noted before that there's "only one human race, Homo sapiens sapiens" If I were talking about species, I wouldn't have added the second sapiens. Just saying.
 
There is human races a lot facts leads to that. Multiculture religious fanatics dont like it becouse it shows evolution is true. There is few small old perl swimmer villages in spain and local people there can be several mins underwater becouse of their mutatend blood and when they make child with some else child will have alot poorer mutetand blood which leads to that they cannot be so long time underwater what the pure breeds can. Also gives point why races shouldnt mix.
 
tard said:
There is human races a lot facts leads to that. Multiculture religious fanatics dont like it becouse it shows evolution is true. There is few small old perl swimmer villages in spain and local people there can be several mins underwater becouse of their mutatend blood and when they make child with some else child will have alot poorer mutetand blood which leads to that they cannot be so long time underwater what the pure breeds can. Also gives point why races shouldnt mix.

:wtf:
 
Sander said:
Why? Because they feel the need to be part of something, or because they feel the need to feel superior, or because they are just misguided people pissed off about something. Reasoning won't help much with those people. I once had to do a paper about fascism. So I visited some of those websites. It's unbelievable how stupidly unfounded most of those "thoughts" are.

I did a paper on fascism once, too. I decided to go where I could probably get a good understanding of it...any guesses...any at all? Heh, the happy people over at americannaziparty.com seem to be a 'fun' sort of people. The conspiracy theories involving muds, negroids, and zog are...interesting. All who go there should be afraid, very afraid.

I think some people have been around such views for so long that they actually believe others to be inferior. I guess this all comes from people's desire to have some form of power and control.

I just don't like people who use race as a tool to get what they want; like threatening to sue if they don't get hired or if they are fired and such. It sort of lumps in with those outlandish 'slavery reparations' ideas that popped up years ago. People with very little or no connection to past crimes should not be forced to do anything.
 
While we're on this topic, I got one of those 'pass it on' emails the other day. It maskes some good points and others are 'out there', but here it is:

Is Andy Rooney the only sane one left? Andy Rooney (for those of you that don't know is an 82 year old US TV commentator) who said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: "I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies. "I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.


"I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.



"I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.



"When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.



"I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would be 'FIRED' immediately!



"I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!



"My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the above lines.



"I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.



"I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.



"We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.



"I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.



"I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.



"I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.



"It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say 'NO!'



"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!



"I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
 
I watched today some school series and there was issue of racism and best their argument was it is dumb and there is no races :|

Thank god I born with brains.
 
Okay, seriously. WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY? Can an admin check to see if he's not a joke poster set up by someone here?
 
Kharn: Whether or not there are races is debatable, but anthropologically speaking, there are non, and morally speaking, it does not matter. Every human is worth the same and is equal to every other human being.

To Dove: No, it's not a joke poster. UNique IP and all.

There is human races a lot facts leads to that. Multiculture religious fanatics dont like it becouse it shows evolution is true.
Idiot. I believe in the theory of evolution.
There is few small old perl swimmer villages in spain and local people there can be several mins underwater becouse of their mutatend blood and when they make child with some else child will have alot poorer mutetand blood which leads to that they cannot be so long time underwater what the pure breeds can.
Yes, people have different genetic abilities. I have blonde hear and blue eyes, others have black hair and brown eyes. Woohoo, great point for....ehh....what exactly?
Also gives point why races shouldnt mix.
So, according to you, races shouldn't mix because certain abilities will be lost? Aha, and do you really honestly think that anyone gives a fuck that the ability to swim underwater is deminished? People love eachother-->they have children. Great for them, great for the child and you have nothing at all to do with them.
Moreover, you're missing the point of evolution. The point of evolution IS too interbreed, or no new races, species and whatnot would come into existance.
 
Sander said:
Kharn: Whether or not there are races is debatable, but anthropologically speaking, there are non, and morally speaking, it does not matter. Every human is worth the same and is equal to every other human being.

Then don't contradict me.
 
calculon00 said:
Nobody is born racist, its taught to people by thier parents, or fabricated by people wanting to blame someone else for thier problems.

Actually, that's bullshit. It is in our nature to be racist. It's nurture that stops it. If they're different, not part of the pack, we look at them differently - because we're designed to do so. We generalize and categorize - because that's how our brains keep track of things.

There is no learning right and wrong. We're born knowing wrong, it's right that has to be taught.
 
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