The Codex has a really short bit up in which they gather an amusingly large number of "warning sign" quotes from Fallout 3 preview.
Link: What is Fallout 3? on RPGCodex
Link: What is Fallout 3? on RPGCodex
RPGCodex gathers Fallout 3 quotes
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DarkPhilly
First time out of the vault
Indeed it does. I will have to go back and continue lurking in the shadows for a little while longer.
soth
First time out of the vault
If that's what I think of it after playing it, then there is no god. I'd rather they don't finish it at all. Oh please what a nightmare. The game I loved most of them all sodomized and dumbed.
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Somehow I suspected that it'd be one of those "I threw up a little in my mouth" moments for me if I read that.
And hey, I was right.
And hey, I was right.
Eh, I hardly call comparing something to something it is not to make it easy for the mass populace to digest a warning sign.
Just like when someone sells a movie pitch, they have to compare it to other movies that are out to catch someones interest and make it easy to digest, otherwise it'll fall on deaf ears.
Just like when someone sells a movie pitch, they have to compare it to other movies that are out to catch someones interest and make it easy to digest, otherwise it'll fall on deaf ears.
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
xdarkyrex said:
Well, they could.. you know.. compare it to Fallout.
They wouldn't compare it to Oblivion if it wasn't very much like Oblivion, and from what I've seen it's just that.
Vault 69er said:
Game previews are written for the lowest common denominator, you know that.
don't play stupid, I know you know better.The lowest common denominator wants to hear "fallout vs oblivion" because thats what makes most sense to them, whether its really relevant outside of the graphics engine or not.
It's got to be easy to digest for people who don't know much about one game or the other, but most everyone knows what oblivion looks like, so its a good comparison for the stupid and uninformed to explain what it looks like (engine wise).
Sorrow
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Nothing new. It was known since 2004.
I spotted a mistake...
Fixed.
While we should be wary of jumping to conclusions based on quotes taken off their context, everyone here already knows that anything one can conclude about the journalists previewing the game, and about the game itself, from those "pearls of wisdom", is probably true.
I don't know is that mentioned on RPGCodex (don't have account to check out) but well in Polish review from E3 at GOL on six page there is a little chatting between Shuck, GOL worker and Emil Pagliarulo from Bethesda (my shitty translation):
Shuck: Are you planing support modding community with giving them tools?
Emil: We still don't know that - we are discussing about this. This is what we of corse did in case of Oblivion, but it don't means that we do the same for Fallout. The truth is that making modding tools take many much time, the time we lose on game production. We see about that.
Shuck:Is this caution made by troubles, that you have by infamous Oblivion mod?
Emil: No. But the fact is that when you release from your hands tools to the modding, you lose much control of your game.
Shuck: Are you planing support modding community with giving them tools?
Emil: We still don't know that - we are discussing about this. This is what we of corse did in case of Oblivion, but it don't means that we do the same for Fallout. The truth is that making modding tools take many much time, the time we lose on game production. We see about that.
Shuck:Is this caution made by troubles, that you have by infamous Oblivion mod?
Emil: No. But the fact is that when you release from your hands tools to the modding, you lose much control of your game.
Morbus
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Suffer weakling!!!soth said:
:EDIT:
Oh, and there is a god. It's only that he hates fallout fans, as stated over and over again, in the past.
hordespawn
First time out of the vault
Zeal said:
The sad part is that it's incredibly likely that Fallout 3 will be the game remembered by the masses.
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
hordespawn said:
As it should be! After all, Fallout 3 is the game Tim Cain et al intended to make if only they had our super advanced technology. Todd said so. It must be true.
I actually think this game might be Bethesda's undoing. Most of their target audience (early teens) doesn't give a cap about Fallout and couldn't care less about a rehash of Oblivion, without hot chicks (at least in this aspect it is better than FOBOS).
Heck, I'd love to see a proper company getting ahold of the franchise and dismissing Fallout 3 as non canon.
Heck, I'd love to see a proper company getting ahold of the franchise and dismissing Fallout 3 as non canon.
Mikael Grizzly said:
That would be pure justice, sweet juicy justice...
So we're not allowed to expect honest-and-true not for the general public reviews? What makes the game industry so much more special in that we are not allowed to expect a higher(any) level of professionalism?xdarkyrex said:
I could've sworn I USED to see honest reviews that were easily understandable by even people who don't play games... hm...
xdarkyrex said:
My home-made box-car looks and operates just like a Ferrari! Because not everyone knows what box-cars look like, and they all know about Ferraris!
That's some great journalism techniques right there.
generalissimofurioso said:
Heh, what do you two think is going to happen if Bethesda's Fallout 3 and subsequent follow ups fail to gain the masses
Interesting story:
Yesterday, when I was at a game store to pick up my copy of "Civilization 4: Beyond the Sword", I ran into a young man and his mother (I think she was his mother) who was looking for a game for his birthday.
Apparently he had chosen "Elder Scrolls Oblivion" because he had played it at a friend's place, but he wasn't entirely sure as he was also looking at other games.
I made conversation with both and grew to the understanding of this, most of what he knew of Oblivion was based on the hype Bethesda had made.
They asked me in return what games I liked and what I would recommend.
I suggested that he should try to game first, rent it at the library before buying it, and that "Bioshock" would be released next month.
In the end he still decided to get Oblivion.